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Old 10-25-12, 10:16 AM   #61
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Claims, as Dowly posted links, are BO is clean as a whistle.
Nope, the link shows (with sources listed) that much of the claims against Obama
are simply not true.
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Old 10-25-12, 10:20 AM   #62
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Nope, the link shows (with sources listed) that much of the claims against Obama
are simply not true.
Facts have a liberal bias.
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Old 10-25-12, 10:31 AM   #63
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Facts have a liberal bias.
Then according to logic,

Lies have a republican bias
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Then according to logic,

Lies have a republican bias
That would be a vast right wing conspiracy.
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Old 10-25-12, 11:38 AM   #66
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Then according to logic,

Lies have a republican bias
Of course you're both biased.
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Old 10-25-12, 11:42 AM   #67
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Of course you're both biased.
This is a vast Subsim conspiracy.
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The discussion is not about court ordered sealed anything. It is about records that some would like to see. If there is nothing to hide why not let the records show there is nothing of mention and take the 5 million for a charity.
It's a form of extortion and we don't negotiate with terrorists comes to mind.
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It's a form of extortion and we don't negotiate with terrorists comes to mind.
Extortion? Not really. Setting a precedence if Obama goes through with it? Absolutely.
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The whole "if you have nothing to hide, you should consent to X" thing is such a farce. That's the same type of wrongheaded thinking that got the Patriot Act passed.

Refusing to release records from years ago because your political enemies are looking to make hay with anything they find in them is not a crime or even controversial. If Mitt Romney had said "screw you, my taxes are my business." I wouldn't have batted an eye. It was a spun up issue that was absolutely retarded - of course any sane person with access to accountants and tax shelters is going to make use of them to minimize their tax burden. You'd be a fool to do otherwise. That's why TurboTax and H.R. Block and every other tax preparer advertises that they can find you the most deductions and get your tax bill down lower. But all of a sudden we're going to tar and feather Mitt Romney because he did the exact same thing millions of Americans do every April? Come on now.

And the same thing with this Obama college stuff. What Obama got in college in 1980-whocares-ever is irrelevant to anything going on today. First off, the debunked lies that Dowly posted are being repeated over and over. Second of all, people are trying to claim it's not about some birther garbage, but instead it's about claiming to be a foreigner to get some sort of advantage. Uh...hell-oooo, that's what being a birther is. And it's not the eeeeevil libruls that are trying to make being a birther an out-there and crazy thing - the fact that there are still people who believe in it despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary are what make it an out-there and crazy thing. If you don't want to be labelled a conspiracy theorist, then don't believe in conspiracy theories.

If there was anything to find, the armies of Koch-funded PACs and the Clintons and the McCains and the Romneys would have found it by now. Give it up.
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Sorry I just don't agree with you AVG. This only shows Trump to be the POS he really is and you fell for it.

A better name for this would be coercion.

Coercion: the practice of compelling a person or manipulating them to behave in an involuntary way (whether through action or inaction) by use of threats, intimidation, trickery, or some other form of pressure or force. These are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in the desired way.
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Sorry I just don't agree with you AVG. This only shows Trump to be the POS he really is and you fell for it.

A better name for this would be coercion.

Coercion: the practice of compelling a person or manipulating them to behave in an involuntary way (whether through action or inaction) by use of threats, intimidation, trickery, or some other form of pressure or force. These are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in the desired way.
I did not fall for anything. The Don is a nut.

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It is not coercion either. No one is making Obama behave in a involuntary way. I see no intimidation, trickery or pressure. Obama is not a victim.
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If there was anything to find, the armies of Koch-funded PACs and the Clintons and the McCains and the Romneys would have found it by now. Give it up.
You're probably right Mookie, but if so then it's an easy 5 million for Obamas favorite charity while at the same time making "The Donald" look like more the idiot that he is.

So why does Barry pass it up? 5 million bucks would go a long way. Doesn't he care about the poor children?
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