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Old 08-10-11, 11:44 AM   #61
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The most retarded way I died was trying to take a sortcut over land.....did not work!
Lol, reminds me of the tiny atolls in SH4 you don't see unless you zoom all the way in. Ended more than one career that way
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Old 08-11-11, 10:02 AM   #62
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Surface attack against a warship reveals one major flaw in the game engine. Smaller caliber weaponry is not simulated too well. Even a destroyer or maybe even an armed trawler would have had some serious firepower from 20 mm, 13.7 mm and 7.92 mm AA guns, machine guns and rifles. The automatic weapons would have wiped the U-boat gunners off the decks in no time.

Even if the gunners would somehow have survived they wouldn't have had a chance to shoot many shots as the ammo would have needed to be carried to the gun. The loading process of forming a long line of u-boat crewmen passing ammo forward to the deck gun is not simulated either.

There are no trenches or foxholes on a U-boat deck. Small arms fire from a warship comes from a higher point, from multiple places and from better cover. An interesting description of a surface battle against a destroyer and a U-boat can be found if one googles USS Borie.

I find descriptions about voluntary surface attacks against warships a bit irritating, because I take history and simulations too seriously But in the end the main point here is having fun. So if you like sinking warships with surface attacks - SINK 'EM ALL!!
We had some charger a few months back bragging about how he sank a BB (in stock, of course) with his deck gun, so the original game was certainly flawed.

My assumption is that anything with a gun can kill me before I can kill it, so I treat them as airplanes. Duking it out with a deck-gun is a career-killer.
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Old 08-11-11, 12:25 PM   #63
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We had some charger a few months back bragging about how he sank a BB (in stock, of course) with his deck gun, so the original game was certainly flawed.

My assumption is that anything with a gun can kill me before I can kill it, so I treat them as airplanes. Duking it out with a deck-gun is a career-killer.
That's similar to my experiences with warships. I haven't fought with warships voluntarily, though, but only after I have surfaced after blowing ballast after some major damage and for the hell of it tried fighting on the surface with a badly damaged boat. The end result was the destruction of the boat after a few shots.

(Once I did deck gun an armed trawler, just to see what would happen, but the trawler just kept going on in a straight line and I could sneak behind it's stern and shoot at it in impunity. After awhile I stopped and felt a little bit embarrassed, stopped and let the trawler sail away I'll never fight a warship again - it just feels too unrealistic.)
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Old 11-28-11, 08:59 PM   #64
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After inching around for hours on end, I did Gibraltar, all I got was a lousy T3 and a C class. The C class spotted me as I inched my way around the pier to line a shot and proceeded to rein down fire on my as I hope to almighty Buck it wouldnt start up its engines. Fired two eels, first one did the trick and then resisted the temptation to steam away and order silent rigging as my battery hovered below the 25% mark, fortunately my crew are used to my harbour hating psychosis and coped well. Right now I can only say Gibraltar is not worth the hassle.
Inching along the coastline, took some damage, and the rewards in the stock game are not worth it. But the joy of showing the tommys a thing or two and the power of the German U-Boot make it all worthwhile.
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Old 11-28-11, 09:04 PM   #65
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stupidest death though was forgetting I was submerged, time compression and getting distracted by a book. Click back to be greeted by a rather pathetic obituary page with my beloved boys all dead and not likely to be up again in a hurry...
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Old 11-28-11, 09:07 PM   #66
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it just feels too unrealistic.)
Can I ask, and no offense to you, but do you play without compression and without saving. I see a large percentage of people go on about realism etc but I don' get it fully. The only way of being "realistic" is never saving and never accelerating speed and frankly I hope there are no members like that .
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Old 11-29-11, 02:00 AM   #67
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Can I ask, and no offense to you, but do you play without compression and without saving. I see a large percentage of people go on about realism etc but I don' get it fully. The only way of being "realistic" is never saving and never accelerating speed and frankly I hope there are no members like that .

Hell no, I would not play the game at full realism. That would mean suffocating myself etc in real life if I get hit in the game. With realistic I mean something that gives enough of a feeling of how an actual U-boat commander might have thought in different situations. With me that means 100 % realism in the game settings, not seeing any map contacts, even my own sub in F5 screen, trying to follow the actual orders that were given during the war, ending the career if I get sunk, time compression max 128 in order to keep the airplanes in the air. But that is not enough for some people and I've read posts by people who play in real time. That's a bit too hardcore for me

It's a shame that airplanes and time compression don't work properly. If they did I might use more TC and actually have time to play the game
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Old 11-29-11, 05:51 AM   #68
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Hell no, I would not play the game at full realism. That would mean suffocating myself etc in real life if I get hit in the game. With realistic I mean something that gives enough of a feeling of how an actual U-boat commander might have thought in different situations. With me that means 100 % realism in the game settings, not seeing any map contacts, even my own sub in F5 screen, trying to follow the actual orders that were given during the war, ending the career if I get sunk, time compression max 128 in order to keep the airplanes in the air. But that is not enough for some people and I've read posts by people who play in real time. That's a bit too hardcore for me

It's a shame that airplanes and time compression don't work properly. If they did I might use more TC and actually have time to play the game
Completely agree with you in the sentiments. Thanks for the reply.
TC is the only way I could possible play and yeah I admit it robs the game of a lot but then again it is a game. As for playing till sunk, I in general do to but when I was starting kept retrying a lot of things to have the opportunity of learning. Main thing I learned is never think you can run away from trouble
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Old 11-30-11, 10:31 PM   #69
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Missed this thread first time 'round..... so here goes.....

Sank myself with my own eel.

Nuff said.

I think Missing Name made some 'fan' art of it somewhere.


OK.. ok...

It was late '44 or early '45, in a XXI, I decided to take a peak into New York. I ran the 'deep' channel (all 20m of it or so) for as long as I could. Eventually, I had to run with the tip of my bridge almost surfaced, and then I saw this torpedo boat coming at me. So I figured I could pick him off with a homing eel. Somehow he picked me up i think, and came at me, towing the eel behind it as they have about the same speed. I think i panicked and went to flank, which then the eel locked onto me as it passed, and kerpow, therres goes that career.

Yup. That was dumb. On all accounts.
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Old 12-01-11, 06:42 AM   #70
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Can I ask, and no offense to you, but do you play without compression and without saving. I see a large percentage of people go on about realism etc but I don' get it fully. The only way of being "realistic" is never saving and never accelerating speed and frankly I hope there are no members like that .
To his credit sublynx did use the term "feels realistic", and with a game that's the best we'll ever have - how it feels to the player. I've objected many times to the concept of 1x play, mainly because people who use it don't actually use it; that is they don't sit in front of the monitor 24/7 being part of the game, they go and do other things, which defeats the purpose of doing it in the first place. Having said that, it's the justification that I object to, not the actual practice. You play the way that makes you feel a part of the experience. When I played flight sims I didn't "sit in the cockpit" for several hours just waiting for something to happen.

For me I try to play as realistically as possible to my mind, which for me means not using external views when in combat or to identify potential targets, not using the deck or flak guns myself and other things of that nature. On the other hand my math skills are so nonexistant I'm failed miserably at trying to master manual torpedo targeting. To counter for this I choose Manual Targeting, but use Weapons Officer Assistance. Since he's perfect I at least give the enemy a fighting chance by taking new sightings every few minutes, which doesn't change anything but gives them a chance to see my periscope.

It can never be real, but for some of us having it "feel" real is what makes all the difference.
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Old 12-04-11, 02:24 PM   #71
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Old 01-05-12, 10:44 AM   #72
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I decided to create a new career to try and infiltrate the Firth of Forth i started my Career on September 1st but since i wanted to change out my hydrophones i set patrol on September 2nd. In haste to get to the Firth of Forth before UK and France joined the war i told me men Ahead Flank half way in our Journy UK and France Declare themselves at war with Germany. So now i have made the decision to try and take it slow and not die.... i ended up getting the firth of forth just finding out that there is no room to dive, but i decided to press on... Eventually there were too many merchants in the area that were very small that weren't worth a torpedo but they could report my presence to a Destroyer and sure enough a Destroyer appears from the mouth of inlet going full speed ahead towards my ship so what do i do? Thats right charge at the destroyer my guns ablazeing. I eventually destroyed the destroyer but with 45% hull integrity. I work my self ahead flank again to the nearest deep spot i could dive and wait out all the enemy presence. The bad part was there was a tug boat following me and to not waste any shells or torpedos on it well... i ram it turns out there is a patrol craft comeing to the rescue and i cant get the tug boat that i rammed out from under me so i use it as a sheild from the patrol crafts AAA. i eventually get the Patrol craft with 33% integrity
so im contiuning on and another patrol craft comes out of no where
I made it to the history books as the first U boat sunk in WW2
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Old 01-05-12, 11:08 AM   #73
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I think you could do withe the Klingon cloaking device mod
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Old 01-05-12, 03:07 PM   #74
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Tried adjusting the depth, trim, and diving controls on MaryBeth Bruckmeister at the drive-in when i was 16!
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Old 01-06-12, 04:55 AM   #75
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I think you could do withe the Klingon cloaking device mod
Too late for that
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