Ridely Scott quits on new Alien project (2011) - Page 5

Dowly · 03-18-12, 09:10 AM

Official Trailer

Q&A with Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof

Come oooon, be June already!

Oh hello, have we met?

(from the trailer)

Jimbuna · 03-18-12, 09:25 AM

Looking forward to it...even more so because Ridley Scott is from my home town.

STEED · 03-18-12, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Looking forward to it...even more so because Ridley Scott is from my home town.

Did he take you out for lunch and cigars?

Jimbuna · 03-18-12, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Did he take you out for lunch and cigars?

No but I have dined with your mates Blair and Miliband (David) on separate occasions

Dowly · 03-19-12, 06:47 AM

Aaand the International Trailer with quite a bit of different footage

kranz · 03-19-12, 10:54 AM

if I had had a second chance to write my M.A. thesis, it would have been like that:
"the repetitive pattern of American S-F movies".
intro...
main body:
-space
-spaceships (the more round shapes the better)
-expedition of dumb Americans to discover "object A"
-condition 1: the crew must contain at least one, non-american crewmember
(he/she doesn't have to be a foreigner, a mispronounced French name will suffice)
-condition 2: pretty faces only. c'mon. go to any freaking lab for urine or blood test. have you ever seen charlize theron or ben affleck(this version is for gays) taking the sample? NO! their faces are ALWAYS casual, more or less ugly. omg. why does the perfection occur only in the American S-F??
-condition 3: there must be some "unexplainable" force(a variation can be noticed here: it can be either unexplainable force or just a government conspiracy(Alien, Predator+all the rest of the c...) that "communicates" with the dumb American "watch station" to tell it that the "object A" is sending a freaking "signal"---> which is ALWAYS a freaking decoy bcoz...
-condition 4: "object A" is never discovered. I mean, they always find "object B", that is, something else.
let's go on...
-the expedition must be divided by some inner, non-SF issues. drunkard husband, sluttish (does this word exist or have I just created it?)daughter, grandpa can't s...out...You know...NASA has their "database"(which is a 50 MB excel file) of the best of the best of the best of the best of the best "space troubles" specialists, BUT AFTER ALL they always take people with casual, day-to-day life problems. Even Jim has them.
-so they are flying...in the outer space...and they play chess and cards bcoz it's always a long journey. wrong. back. they don't play anything bcoz they sleep throughout the voyage in, get ready, cryogenic capsulezzzz. yay. sure...the humanity has lasers, cryogenic capsules but they still use 99% of objects as if they lived in the 1980's...
back to the capsules. why capsules? bcoz something may go wrong there+you are unconscious+that unexplainable force or the government is doing the freaking conspiracy while you are sleeping.
-did I mention lasers? ok...they must be red and must resemble these which appeared in Predator. Like you know- I have a red dot/triangle on my forehead!! ZOMG- the aliens want to kill you, run. Why do the aliens always aim with the red laser? To go even further, we already had aliens who could kill you with telepathy, but...they had "beads" like those first fliers during the Great War.
-darkness. Sure. Our battle cruisers have nuclear reactors which could power 99999 american cities but when "something non-human" gets on board everything goes pitch black to hide that zipper of the alien costume bcoz the director is not sure whether the cameraman will be able to aim the camera in such a way to hide that zipper. You say, hey moron, haven't you seen Avatar? there are no dark scenes there. Yeah, bcoz the zippers were erased by "teh rubber" or by "teh healing brush".
-alluding to the ancient times. I mean, pre-ancient times. pre, pre, pre...
You know that a bunch of aliens was having a very rough sex on the same spot where Jimbuna parks his car now? Or a drunken Alien stumbled over the VERY SAME stone which Dowly did after leaving his favorite pub? I'm telling you, the aliens were here looong time ago and the Earth was they playground, bcoz they made people into other species of aliens and were hunting them? I mean, it doesn't really matter what they did, they always have business with any ancient civilization (yeah, sure it wouldn't be possible to build a pyramid now (unless you are German). Ok, you may say, "ok smartass, every respectable scholar supports his theory with an explanation", ok. challenge accepted. why the heck ancient civilization is always(you know what I mean) a freaking fetish in S-F movies? Answer: bcoz the director is yet another dumb American for whom literally anything older than 200 years (explanation: American history is 200 years old) is a fetish. Hieroglyphic signs? Yabadabadoo. It's like a perfect receipt: pour a bit of ancient stuff into a bowl, add some pretty Hollywood (not that holly...)faces, grate with lasers and the outer space, sprinkle with sex, blood and guts and voila! (a French word, so don't even try to say it)
-criticism, you know...Baudrillard, Foucault, discourse of power, make humanity rotten enough so that it would be easier to convince the audience that there IS something to look outside the sphere of the "familiar". to seek for the unfamiliar, which..get ready... ulimately wants to kill you. wow. kinda pessimistic vision.
-lots of additional points here.
-summary...
I'm not gonna re-read that wall of text, sorry for all the mistakes I've made.

STEED · 03-19-12, 10:58 AM

Dowly please stop drooling will you, your making the Forum all wet.

Dowly · 03-19-12, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Dowly please stop drooling will you, your making the Forum all wet.

NO!

STEED · 03-19-12, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

NO!

Get your bucket and mop out then!

Or jim will bust you on a trumped up charge.

Jimbuna · 03-19-12, 05:46 PM

I thought that second trailer was better than the first...just need to see a few more then I'll get the usual feeling that I've already seen the film.

Some parts reminded me of Event Horizon.

kranz · 03-20-12, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Some parts reminded me of Event Horizon.

yay, I found a supporter.

Catfish · 03-20-12, 08:48 AM

Hehe Kranz, i do like the first Alien film, and i will like Prometheus i guess. I am fascinated by "Science fictional archeology" (like the books from McDevitt),
but your post above was brilliant !

I would really like Ridley Scott to read this lol

Greetings,
Catfish

P.S. you forgot, in case of a hostile extraterrestrian being, which you have to fight as the best of the best of the best space marine, make sure to ALWAYS split up your group and never stay together, so the monster can kill every single soldier separately, and has not to face the bundled fire power of a team :P

Gargamel · 03-20-12, 09:42 AM

Kranz, POTY!

kiwi_2005 · 03-20-12, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Aaand the International Trailer with quite a bit of different footage

Looks damn good. And I hope for Dowly sake this movie doesn't fail or ther be hell to pay!

This released in June? or is it sometime next year.

Dowly · 03-20-12, 01:15 PM

June 8 this year IIRC

03-18-12, 09:10 AM	#61
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03-19-12, 05:46 PM	#70
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I thought that second trailer was better than the first...just need to see a few more then I'll get the usual feeling that I've already seen the film. Some parts reminded me of Event Horizon. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-20-12, 09:42 AM	#73
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03-19-12, 06:47 AM	#65
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Aaand the International Trailer with quite a bit of different footage

03-19-12, 10:54 AM	#66
kranz The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 1,430 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	if I had had a second chance to write my M.A. thesis, it would have been like that: "the repetitive pattern of American S-F movies". intro... main body: -space -spaceships (the more round shapes the better) -expedition of dumb Americans to discover "object A" -condition 1: the crew must contain at least one, non-american crewmember (he/she doesn't have to be a foreigner, a mispronounced French name will suffice) -condition 2: pretty faces only. c'mon. go to any freaking lab for urine or blood test. have you ever seen charlize theron or ben affleck(this version is for gays) taking the sample? NO! their faces are ALWAYS casual, more or less ugly. omg. why does the perfection occur only in the American S-F?? -condition 3: there must be some "unexplainable" force(a variation can be noticed here: it can be either unexplainable force or just a government conspiracy(Alien, Predator+all the rest of the c...) that "communicates" with the dumb American "watch station" to tell it that the "object A" is sending a freaking "signal"---> which is ALWAYS a freaking decoy bcoz... -condition 4: "object A" is never discovered. I mean, they always find "object B", that is, something else. let's go on... -the expedition must be divided by some inner, non-SF issues. drunkard husband, sluttish (does this word exist or have I just created it?)daughter, grandpa can't s...out...You know...NASA has their "database"(which is a 50 MB excel file) of the best of the best of the best of the best of the best "space troubles" specialists, BUT AFTER ALL they always take people with casual, day-to-day life problems. Even Jim has them. -so they are flying...in the outer space...and they play chess and cards bcoz it's always a long journey. wrong. back. they don't play anything bcoz they sleep throughout the voyage in, get ready, cryogenic capsulezzzz. yay. sure...the humanity has lasers, cryogenic capsules but they still use 99% of objects as if they lived in the 1980's... back to the capsules. why capsules? bcoz something may go wrong there+you are unconscious+that unexplainable force or the government is doing the freaking conspiracy while you are sleeping. -did I mention lasers? ok...they must be red and must resemble these which appeared in Predator. Like you know- I have a red dot/triangle on my forehead!! ZOMG- the aliens want to kill you, run. Why do the aliens always aim with the red laser? To go even further, we already had aliens who could kill you with telepathy, but...they had "beads" like those first fliers during the Great War. -darkness. Sure. Our battle cruisers have nuclear reactors which could power 99999 american cities but when "something non-human" gets on board everything goes pitch black to hide that zipper of the alien costume bcoz the director is not sure whether the cameraman will be able to aim the camera in such a way to hide that zipper. You say, hey moron, haven't you seen Avatar? there are no dark scenes there. Yeah, bcoz the zippers were erased by "teh rubber" or by "teh healing brush". -alluding to the ancient times. I mean, pre-ancient times. pre, pre, pre... You know that a bunch of aliens was having a very rough sex on the same spot where Jimbuna parks his car now? Or a drunken Alien stumbled over the VERY SAME stone which Dowly did after leaving his favorite pub? I'm telling you, the aliens were here looong time ago and the Earth was they playground, bcoz they made people into other species of aliens and were hunting them? I mean, it doesn't really matter what they did, they always have business with any ancient civilization (yeah, sure it wouldn't be possible to build a pyramid now (unless you are German). Ok, you may say, "ok smartass, every respectable scholar supports his theory with an explanation", ok. challenge accepted. why the heck ancient civilization is always(you know what I mean) a freaking fetish in S-F movies? Answer: bcoz the director is yet another dumb American for whom literally anything older than 200 years (explanation: American history is 200 years old) is a fetish. Hieroglyphic signs? Yabadabadoo. It's like a perfect receipt: pour a bit of ancient stuff into a bowl, add some pretty Hollywood (not that holly...)faces, grate with lasers and the outer space, sprinkle with sex, blood and guts and voila! (a French word, so don't even try to say it) -criticism, you know...Baudrillard, Foucault, discourse of power, make humanity rotten enough so that it would be easier to convince the audience that there IS something to look outside the sphere of the "familiar". to seek for the unfamiliar, which..get ready... ulimately wants to kill you. wow. kinda pessimistic vision. -lots of additional points here. -summary... I'm not gonna re-read that wall of text, sorry for all the mistakes I've made.

03-20-12, 08:48 AM	#72
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hehe Kranz, i do like the first Alien film, and i will like Prometheus i guess. I am fascinated by "Science fictional archeology" (like the books from McDevitt), but your post above was brilliant ! I would really like Ridley Scott to read this lol Greetings, Catfish P.S. you forgot, in case of a hostile extraterrestrian being, which you have to fight as the best of the best of the best space marine, make sure to ALWAYS split up your group and never stay together, so the monster can kill every single soldier separately, and has not to face the bundled fire power of a team :P

03-20-12, 01:15 PM	#75
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	June 8 this year IIRC