U-571

[drakkhen20]

interesting note on this movie i watched the special features and found that they made an entire functional replica of a Type VIIC to do the open sea scenes. knowing that movies do blow stuff out of the water sometimes to attract viewers or make it interesting. so how much was authentic in that movie? were some of their tactics actually usable? i figured i'd ask and post something different.

[ReFaN]

How much of the movie was authentic,well. Germans did use Uboats so thats authentic, and they used a enigma machine to code and decode messages is also autentic. everything else im not sure of.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

< Buckles helmet securely >

...tis one of the most inaccurate submarine movies ever made IMHO.

From a topic long ago, one forum member pointed out 80+ inaccuracies relating to U-571.

I think the best part of that movie, is that some sound bites were used to good effect in modding SH4.

[RConch]

If you watched more than 10 minuets of the movie-please seek medical attention now. Only the History Channel could possibly screw up more.

[Sailor Steve]

everything else im not sure of.

I am.

I think the best part of that movie, is that some sound bites were used to good effect in modding SH4.

Only the History Channel could possibly screw up more

Even the American procedures are wrong, down to the tiniest detail.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Well, it did have Bill Paxton and Jon Bonjovi in it... so it could have sucked more completely than it did... maybe...

... Wait... didn't they kill off both of them in the movie?

[Sailor Steve]

Harvey Keitel I love. Bill Paxton is good. But the writing was turribobble.

Bon Jovi? And it could have suxed mores?

[Kpt. Lehmann]

So I like BonJovi's music. SUE ME!!!

I can't stand Matthew McGuaghnahey / McKgonnagey / McGawnahayy ... However you spell his name.

Come on now! You mean to tell me that you didn't love the superb writing, Steve? Matthew MGcGhauanahaigh's character only seemed a LITTLE psychotic.

I don't understand how it is that ole' MGonagaheai didn't get an academy award for bestest-wildest melodramatic expressions evah!

[ERPP8]

I love that movie!

[storm-petrel]

Originally Posted by jimbuna
...and the biggest anomaly of all.....it was the Brits who captured the first enigma machine off a U-boat

Hi all. I thought it was a British and Canadian destroyer that forced sub to surface.

Any one know any more?

[Jimbuna]

In reality, the submarine U-571 was never actually captured. The submarines U-559 and U-110 were the ones captured with the codebooks but by the British Navy in August 1941, four months before the United States entered the war. U-570 however was in fact a u-boat captured in late 1941 (by Britain) near Iceland, and subsequently deployed as HMS Graph until early 1944. Its appearance was used by the Royal Navy to fool German ships and submarines, and destroy them by surprise.

HMS Bulldog took the first enigma machine from a U-boat (U-110).

The British sailors climbed into the conning tower and began a search of the deserted submarine. The bookshelves still contained books of every description - navigation manuals, seamanship manuals, code books and signal books. The Bulldog's telegraphist pointed to an interesting piece of equipment that looked like a typewriter. This, along with all the books from the shelves, was transferred with utmost care to HMS Bulldog. It was important that everything was kept dry as the code books and signal books were printed in ink that disappeared if they were dropped in seawater.

http://www.iwm.org.uk/upload/package...a/enigma12.htm

[storm-petrel]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

In reality, the submarine U-571 was never actually captured. The submarines U-559 and U-110 were the ones captured with the codebooks but by the British Navy in August 1941, four months before the United States entered the war. U-570 however was in fact a u-boat captured in late 1941 (by Britain) near Iceland, and subsequently deployed as HMS Graph until early 1944. Its appearance was used by the Royal Navy to fool German ships and submarines, and destroy them by surprise.

HMS Bulldog took the first enigma machine from a U-boat (U-110).



http://www.iwm.org.uk/upload/package...a/enigma12.htm

Well thanks for that Jim . Many years ago a documentary was broadcast in UK about the capture of the Kriegsmarine enigma....I cannot remember the title of it, or even which channel it was shown on.

It is from this documentary that I thought the RCN had a hand in it, so my memory ( like this 'puter of mine ) needs an upgrade.

Pretty certain however that same programme told of how, before the U-boat was being boarded, the sailor/officer who was supposed to throw the vitally important codebook into the ocean, went and saved a pile of love-letters or poems he had composed about his sweetheart back in Deutschland.

Sweet.....but ultimately it changed the course of the war.

[Jimbuna]

Your welcome matey

[Sgt_Raa]

Originally Posted by storm-petrel

Pretty certain however that same programme told of how, before the U-boat was being boarded, the sailor/officer who was supposed to throw the vitally important codebook into the ocean, went and saved a pile of love-letters or poems he had composed about his sweetheart back in Deutschland.

Sweet.....but ultimately it changed the course of the war.

kinda puts a human face on war!... im sure the Uboat crews didnt want to be there either

[Seminole]

Originally Posted by drakkhen20

interesting note on this movie i watched the special features and found that they made an entire functional replica of a Type VIIC to do the open sea scenes. knowing that movies do blow stuff out of the water sometimes to attract viewers or make it interesting. so how much was authentic in that movie? were some of their tactics actually usable? i figured i'd ask and post something different.

Wonder if it is for sale or lease?





Hmmmm...how much you guys willing to pay for a ride?


Nah...subsimmers get on board free....