Is SH5 the Future of Silent Hunter?

[SteamWake]

It's the game you love to hate

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I see you are confused again, but I am here to correct you. Whether someone "likes" an interface or not is purely a matter of personal taste and is totally irrelevant to an "opinion" on SH5, as you should know.

Neither this interface nor that in any subsim is realistic. An interface is purely an artificial construct to allow the player to play the game. To argue that the "screens" in SH3 are more "realisitic" than the "screens" in SH5 is ludicrous.




I also chose to provide my honest opinion on SH5 and the future of the SH series. You chose to personally criticize my opinion with irrelevant and false issues, on which I corrected you.

I don't understand why the posters who have a negative opinion of SH5 always feel the need to attack those that provide a positive opinion. Are you afraid that the average player will see through the feebleness of your arguments?

Seems to me your the one that came off smug and started talking/typing in a condescending tone with your initial reply (quoted below for reference)....

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

here is a tip: you can turn map updates "off" in the realism setting, just like in SH 3 and 4. Then you only see what you actually plot on the map yourself. Feel free to pass it on..

Feel free to point out where I was rude or condescending to you in my inital post/reply to you and I will apologize.....

IRT to UI being irrelevant.... I absolutely disagree here. I would say aside from the DRM issues, and the broken morale system (why must this be broke with EVERY SH release), a close third is the craptastic UI. Its for these THREE reasons I see hard core subsimmers at least turning away from SH5.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Faamecanic

Seems to me your the one that came off smug and started talking/typing in a condescending tone....

Feel free to point out where I was rude or condescending to you and I will apologize.....

I will readily agree that I may have over-reacted to your posts.


However, your original reply to me was:

"yes, it has map updates on and this is eye candy, but how cool is that periscope station? everything you need is on one screen. The TAI map can be dragged into any shape you want"

And that my friend is why a lot of us DO NOT like SH5... how many Uboat captains knew exactly how far ships ASDIC and hydrophones could hear them while submerged (or on the surface for that matter).

That is why a lot of people say this is too dumbed down.

If someone wants to have a REAL in-depth debate on the strength, weaknesses and long term potential of SH5, I am more than happy to oblige.

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I will readily agree that I may have over-reacted to your posts.


However, your original reply to me was:



If someone wants to have a REAL in-depth debate on the strength, weaknesses and long term potential of SH5, I am more than happy to oblige.

Roger that.... forums stink when words are easily taken to convey one meaning and not the other (had the same discussion with Webster a year ago or so )

Im a natuarlly sarcastic humored person and fail to realize that comes out in my typing at times...so I will mea culpa on that quote above.... my apologys to you if my tone was off.

No doubt I agree SH5 has LONG TERM potential...especially with the talented and dedicated sub sim lovers we have here. But thats what gets my goat.

UBI and many other software publishers release buggy software that is half finished and either expect modders to fix it... or like in the case of EA SPORTS and the Madden franchise, DONT allow modding and now no longer produce the sim for PC (but wont let the NFL license go to another company)...then blame poor sales on a diminishing intrest in the genre. When in all actuality it is the consumer is tired of buying a half finished product.

In my mind the average user/consumer of SH5 will NOT mod the sim. Therefore they will judge the sim based on what experience they have out of the box. That experience cannot bode well to the series.... through no fault of the consumer/sub sim grognard.

[tonibamestre]

I really think SH5 needs to be completed first of all.Once this is done to focuse into other playable,surface units,scorts,be able to manage and control complex vessels,Task Forces including Fleet Carriers and so on.
Would be ideal to make the game progress to a complex detailed Xtreme Naval Warfare status,thus covering WW2 in a different scenarios and the Cold War to our days.

I think Donald Duck should have been included as the UBER rece device... for historical accuracy of course. Thats my oppinion.

If ya think thats retarded... so is UBI's take on WWII.