W. and the damage done

[Christopher Snow]

Bah.

The America W inherited changed rather dramatically on 9-11. And for the rest of us too.

I didn't vote for him either time, but I really do think he did a pretty good job, under the circumstances.


CS

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Christopher Snow

Bah.

The America W inherited changed rather dramatically on 9-11. And for the rest of us too.

I didn't vote for him either time, but I really do think he did a pretty good job, under the circumstances.


CS

I'll tell you one thing, out of the three jokers of Obama, Kerry, or Gore, if we have to have a Demo president, Obama would be my first choice.

Gore is out for self interest. At least I guess you know where he is coming from.

Kerry is a whack - the epitome of a politician. A liar, a cheat, and a stealer that one couldn't hold to have any moral value.

Obama seems to have half a head on his shoulders, though it is premature yet to judge him.

-S

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I'll tell you one thing, out of the three jokers of Obama, Kerry, or Gore, if we have to have a Demo president, Obama would be my first choice.

Gore is out for self interest. At least I guess you know where he is coming from.

Kerry is a whack - the epitome of a politician. A liar, a cheat, and a stealer that one couldn't hold to have any moral value.

Obama seems to have half a head on his shoulders, though it is premature yet to judge him.

-S

I'm 100% in agreement.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I'm 100% in agreement.

But he was bred into politics in my neck of the woods, don't say "I didn't warn youse guys"....

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by 1480

But he was bred into politics in my neck of the woods, don't say "I didn't warn youse guys"....

Hey, at least blago loves him.

i just don't like senators. They don't make desicions, just give speeches. I would prefer a govenor over a senator any day.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, invading Afghanistan and Iraq may be many things but not token

Stupid?:hmm:

Seriously, Iraq had nothing to do with these terrorist organizations and they had nothing to do with 9/11.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Stupid?:hmm:

Seriously, Iraq had nothing to do with these terrorist organizations and they had nothing to do with 9/11.

They only bred terrorists. But of course, they had nothing to do with anything (cough cough...)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...6/550kmbzd.asp

-S

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Stupid?:hmm:

Seriously, Iraq had nothing to do with these terrorist organizations and they had nothing to do with 9/11.

It's silly to think that strategic military objectives should coincide directly with punishing those directly responsible for an attack.

There's a reason that factories and fuel dumps are bombed during wars, even though their outputs may not have been directly used against an opponent in combat.

The principle in Iraq is the same.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

do all your yapping now, because in 2 weeks, we have a new whipping boy.

Wow, that was quick. Nevermind W, BO already has a fan club in europe:

[nikimcbee]

Whoa, just found this:

An open letter to obama: (from Afghanistan)

Afghan jihadist to Obama: "You should also cause one more addition to the U.S. history by becoming the first president to accept the Truth and by adopting the true faith of Islam"

In issuing this invitation to Obama to accept Islam, Maulawy Anwarulhaq Mujahid is following Muhammad's instructions:

Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war...When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them....If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them. (Sahih Muslim 4294)

In other words, the three options are conversion, subjugation, or war.
"In Open Letter to Barack Obama, the Chief of Tora Bora Battlefield In Afghanistan Warns: The Flames of this Fire will Blow Up on Washington," from MEMRI, January 8 (thanks to M.):

In advance of Barack Obama’s upcoming inauguration as U.S. President, the Taliban in Afghanistan led by Mullah Omar have released an open letter. Entitled "An Open Letter to the White House from the Peaks of Tora Bora," the letter notes that Obama has created history by becoming the first African American to control the White House. The letter, dated December 27, 2008, urges him to create another history by accepting Islam. The letter was issued by Maulawy Anwarulhaq Mujahid, whose designation reads as the Chief of the Tora Bora Battlefield. It was simultaneously published in Pashtu, Urdu and English languages on the Pashtu language website, www.toorabora.com.
Following are some excerpts from the letter translated from the Urdu version:
"As Long as Baitul Muqaddas Remains in a State of Occupation, Israel and its Supporters will not Remain in Peace"
"President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama!
"First of all, you must know that protection from the wretchedness in the world and the fire of Hell is only available in Islam. Islam is the only religion that guarantees success in this world and in the Hereafter.
"You are the first black in the U.S. history who has established control on the White House; you should also cause one more addition to the U.S. history by becoming the first president to accept the Truth and by adopting the true faith of Islam....
"Do you know that your nation has been pushed into a war against such an Ummah that is like a single body; there is a beginning to this war, but there is no end.

In other words, the three options are conversion, subjugation, or war.

I hope (god, I said hope ) he's up to this, because if not...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

[FIREWALL]

I thought most African- Americans were Babtists.

But I guess if you go Islam you get 47 or is it 48 Virgins. I like round numbers. How about 50.

Hell, where do I sign up. :p Hey, if there's a problem, they don't have to be Virgins. :rotfl:

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I thought most African- Americans were Babtists.

But I guess if you go Islam you get 47 or is it 48 Virgins. I like round numbers. How about 50.

Hell, where do I sign up. :p Hey, if there's a problem, they don't have to be Virgins. :rotfl:

Just on your "jihad application", make sure you check the correct box. That would really suck if you checked the: Guys: x gals: Goats:

This could be you:



Have fun on your wedding night!:rotfl:

[nikimcbee]

Firewall meets his 72 virgins:

Part 1


part 2


Which of these buttons calls your parents?
:rotfl: