Here we go again-Ukraine once again

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It is difficult for NATO to find air defense systems for Ukraine, such weapons are in short supply, - Financial Times

As the Financial Times writes, it is difficult for NATO countries to identify and provide a sufficient number of air defense systems to satisfy Ukraine’s request.

As Censor.NET informs about this with a link to ZN.ua.

Citing Western officials, the publication said Kyiv is asking its allies for better protection after Russia fired missiles at Ukrainian cities on Monday, killing at least 10 civilians. The Ukrainian government considers the purchase of air defense systems a top priority within the framework of Western support.

Germany delivered the first of four promised IRIS-T installations on Tuesday, and US President Joe Biden on Monday promised to continue providing "advanced air defense systems" after speaking with Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky.

Today, representatives of 50 countries gathered in Brussels to discuss how to further meet Kyiv's defense needs against the war unleashed by Vladimir Putin. On Tuesday, Zelensky called on G7 leaders to speed up arms deliveries and asked for help in building an "air shield" for Ukraine. Western officials agree that Kyiv needs more air defense systems, and they are looking for ways to help. But at the same time, they admit that it is not easy to provide such weapons quickly.

The US and other countries are looking for systems that could be transferred in conditions of production shortages and small reserves, two Western officials told the Financial Times. "The countries have already transferred something, but there is a shortage of production capabilities," said one of the interlocutors of the publication on condition of anonymity.

He also added that some NATO countries themselves have been waiting years for the systems needed for their own air defense. The Financial Times reminds that the countries of the alliance, including Poland and Great Britain, have transferred various air defense platforms to Ukraine since the beginning of the Russian invasion. In addition, the Ukrainian army had its own S-300 systems.

So now Ukrainian air defense is very diverse. The US has promised to deliver two more NASAMS systems within the next two months, and Ukraine will receive six more in the long term. On Monday, when Russia launched a massive barrage, the Ukrainian military was able to shoot down 41 of more than 80 Russian missiles. But analysts say that Ukraine's capabilities will still not be enough to protect both civilian centers and troops at the front. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373307

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Me thinks it's not a question if, but when we will see boots on the ground in some way or other.

Zelenskyj has asked for a peacekeeping forces to monitor/protect northern border towards Belarus.

If Nato/UN agree on this-Then Ukrainian can move ten thousands of soldier south.

Markus

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^ Not gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Some thoughts about the possibility on a third offensive mentioned in Dargos comment.

What I know is when you send 3-4 division ahead in an offensive-You must have 1-2 at the rear to protect their retreat if that is needed.

Does Ukrainian have enough of men/division to go on a third offensive ?

Markus

I think they have do not know they have the material, but this offensive will not happen this year due to the weather.

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This was not good following video clip(in the link) is from 2008.
Today he is supporting Putin's war.

Vladimir Solovyov speaking at the Moscow Arts Theatre in 2008:

A war against Ukraine would be "the most terrible crime you can think of"

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...66665353519104

Markus

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Keep track of coins rolling.


https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-a...eLevel=not-set

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^ Most interesting Sky

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Russia has launched fresh attacks on Thursday morning, Ukrainian officials say, hitting a critical infrastructure facility near Kyiv.

A five-storey block of flats was also hit in Mykolaiv - the local mayor says the southern city was "massively shelled"

Russia's Vladimir Putin is expected to meet Turkey's President Erdogan on the sidelines of a summit in Kazakhstan later.

Kremlin officials say Erdogan is likely to "officially" offer to mediate peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's Nato-led allies announce deliveries of advanced air defence weapons to Kyiv, hailed by Ukraine as "historic"

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UN General Assembly condemns Russia annexation

The United Nations General Assembly has voted overwhelmingly to condemn Russia's attempts to annex four regions of Ukraine.

The resolution was supported by 143 countries, while 35 states - including China and India - abstained.

As well as Russia, four countries rejected the vote, namely Belarus, North Korea, Syria and Nicaragua.

Although symbolic, it was the highest number of votes against Russia since the invasion.

Last week, in a grand ceremony in the Kremlin, President Vladimir Putin signed documents to make the eastern Ukrainian regions of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson part of Russia.

The agreements were signed with the Moscow-installed leaders of the four regions, and came after self-proclaimed referendums in the areas that were denounced as a "sham" by the West.

The resolution calls on the international community not to recognise any of Russia's annexation claims and demands its "immediate reversal". It welcomes and "expresses its strong support" for efforts to de-escalate the conflict through negotiation.

The countries which voted with Russia all have a longstanding stance of criticising Western governments.

Belarus is considered a satellite state of its neighbour and ally, and its territory was used in Moscow's invasion of Ukraine in February.

As well as China and India, which have attempted to remain neutral on the conflict, parties that abstained from the vote included 19 nations in Africa.

Many African countries have avoided taking sides in the war - which has been seen as a reflection of efforts to maintain longstanding trade ties, or of historic non-alignment policies.

Three of four states that were visited by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in July - Congo-Brazzaville, Ethiopia and Uganda - chose to abstain.

Meanwhile, all four nations that featured on a recent trip by Ukraine's own foreign minister - Ghana, Ivory Coast, Kenya and Senegal - voted at the UN to condemn Russia.

Dmytro Kuleba made his tour in an apparent effort to counter Russian influence in Africa, although he cut short his visit after major Ukrainian cities came under missile fire on Monday.

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky said he was grateful to the countries that did support the resolution.

"The world had its say - [Russia's] attempts at annexation is [sic] worthless and will never be recognised by free nations," he tweeted, adding that Ukraine would "return all its lands".

US President Joe Biden said the vote sent a "clear message" to Moscow.

"The stakes of this conflict are clear to all, and the world has sent a clear message in response - Russia cannot erase a sovereign state from the map," he said.

Dame Barbara Woodward, Britain's ambassador to the UN, said Russia had failed on the battlefield and at the UN, adding that countries had united to defend the world body's charter.

"Russia has isolated itself, but Russia alone can stop the suffering. The time to end the war is now," she said.

The General Assembly vote was triggered after Russia used its veto power to prevent action at the Security Council - the body in charge of maintaining international peace and security. As permanent members, China, the United States, France and the United Kingdom also hold vetoes on the council.

There have been calls for Russia to be stripped of its veto power after the Ukraine invasion.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-63237669

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Nato countries to boost Ukraine's missile defence after massive Russian strikes

Ukraine's Nato-led allies have announced deliveries of advanced air defence weapons to Kyiv, after a spate of Russian missile strikes.

The weaponry promised by the UK, Canada, France and the Netherlands includes missiles and radars. The US earlier made a similar pledge. One high-tech system from Germany is already in Ukraine.

The pledges come as Ukraine's allies from 50 countries meet at Nato headquarters in Brussels.

Kyiv hailed the summit as "historic".

Hours later Russian shelling hit the southern city of Mykolaiv on Thursday morning, officials said.

The city's mayor Oleksandr Senkevich said the city was "massively shelled" at around 01:00 local time (23:00 GMT).

"A five-storey residential building was hit, the upper two floors were completely destroyed, the rest - under rubble. Rescuers are working on the site," he said.

It has been a particularly intense week in Ukraine - on Monday and Tuesday, it saw some of its heaviest Russian bombardment in months when more than 100 missiles were launched, hitting energy infrastructure and other non-military targets including a children's playground.

At least 19 people were killed on the first day of the strikes, which included hitting central Kyiv.

Russian President Vladimir Putin says the missile strikes were retaliation for an attack on a key bridge linking Russia and Crimea - Ukraine's southern peninsula annexed by Moscow in 2014.

Russia says Saturday's blast was organised by Ukraine's intelligence agency - a claim rubbished by Kyiv.

The UK will donate air defence missiles, as well as hundreds of aerial drones to support Ukraine's information gathering and logistics capabilities. It will also provide 18 howitzer artillery guns in addition to the 64 already delivered.

"Russia's latest indiscriminate strikes on civilian areas in Ukraine warrant further support to those seeking to defend their nation," said Defence Secretary Ben Wallace.

"These weapons will help Ukraine defend its skies from attacks and strengthen their overall missile defence."

Speaking after the Brussels meeting on Wednesday, US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin said "we're going to do everything we can to make sure that they [Ukrainians] they have what's required to be effective".

French President Emmanuel Macron said Paris would supply air defence systems to Ukraine.

In an interview to France 2 television, he did not specify which systems would be sent. But he did say their main function would be to protect the population from drones.

The Netherlands said it would deliver €15m (£13m; $14.5m) worth of air defence missiles.

Dutch Defence Minister Kajsa Ollongren said the Russian attacks "can only be met with unrelenting support for Ukraine and its people".

Canada pledged to provide more than C$47m ($34m; £31m) worth of military aid, including satellite communications and drone cameras.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's military announced earlier on Wednesday that the first of several "state-of-the-art IRIS-T SLM has been delivered from Germany to Ukraine". It said the air defence system would help protect the country "against terror".

President Zelensky has for months been asking Ukraine's allies to provide air defence systems to create an "air shield" for Ukraine.

In his video address late on Wednesday, the Ukrainian leader said: "The more audacious and cruel Russian terror becomes, the more obvious it is to the world that helping Ukraine to protect the sky is one of the most important humanitarian tasks for Europe of our time."

"I believe that we will cope with this task," he added.

Russia has repeatedly warned Ukraine's allies against supplying advanced weaponry to Kyiv, stressing this would make them participants of the war that Mr Putin began on 24 February.

The West has accused Moscow of nuclear sabre-rattling, following a string of Russian military defeats on the battlefield.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63236367

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