Can This Be A Work Around For The 8 KM Visibility? - Page 4

Immacolata · 07-18-05, 06:11 AM

Wnderful discovery. I wish you luck with the testing. One thing that might bring me back to another patrol of SH3 could be just that.

Lanzfeld · 07-18-05, 06:48 AM

Very nice discovery. Many of us will be waiting to hear about your testing!

Duke of Earl · 07-18-05, 08:58 AM

@Jungman... thanks for the tip.. wasn't getting any noticeable results from the hex edits in the AI_Sensors.dat file anywho... so, got rid of those and replaced it with the Vanilla file..

Did some 'MaxElevation' edits to all the FuMO's I could find in the Sensors.dat fle..

Also, did some 'MaxRange' and 'PreciseRange' edits in the 'Periscope' and 'Visual' sections of Sensors.dat

Maybe something will happen now... if this works, then I'm gonna make some small changes to the GHG, KDB, etc. hydrophones too...

Ooops... forgot about your DD Sonar fix... better put that back in..

Cordialement, Duke of Earl

R48 · 07-18-05, 01:22 PM

Jungman,

You are a man with a mission! Excellent work. I'm looking forward to what you come up with.

Duke of Earl · 07-18-05, 02:14 PM

Ok... using the FuMO 30 Radar with 'MaxElevation' hex edit (180 changed to 360) in Sensors.dat file...

Single contact @ 5300 (not bad)... radar wheel shows contact bearing @ approx. 213... NavChart shows bearing @ 153... RO calls out bearing @153...

Not exactly a 180 deg error.. appears to be 60 deg outta-wack now... but still an error.. more tests to follow... I might have screwed up the hex edit, so I need to reverify the hex values...

Cordialement, Duke of Earl

Laffertytig · 07-18-05, 02:18 PM

is the problame not the fact that its the smoke we should see first, not the ship? there doesnt seem to be any AI setting for this.

Immacolata · 07-18-05, 04:30 PM

Well there's no way to make us see smoke at 15km off I think. But h4x0ring the AI files might make it possible for your WO to spot ships at ranges further than the 8000 meter Sphere of Fogginess that you seem to live in (translate: render engine clips visual range at 8000m). So you can't see stuff further out. At least that is how I interpret it.

irishred · 07-18-05, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Immacolata

Well there's no way to make us see smoke at 15km off I think. But h4x0ring the AI files might make it possible for your WO to spot ships at ranges further than the 8000 meter Sphere of Fogginess that you seem to live in (translate: render engine clips visual range at 8000m). So you can't see stuff further out. At least that is how I interpret it.

Well, you can just pretend the smoke is visible past 8000m...

Lanzfeld · 07-19-05, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by irishred

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Originally Posted by Immacolata

Well there's no way to make us see smoke at 15km off I think. But h4x0ring the AI files might make it possible for your WO to spot ships at ranges further than the 8000 meter Sphere of Fogginess that you seem to live in (translate: render engine clips visual range at 8000m). So you can't see stuff further out. At least that is how I interpret it.

Well, you can just pretend the smoke is visible past 8000m...

ANYTHING to increase the area we can visually scan during clear weather is good for me.

CCIP · 07-19-05, 11:01 AM

Jackpot.

Thanks Jungman. Keep us up with the discoveries, and I'll keep testing to see how things work.

I don't really mind not being able to see as far since frankly... well, there's not that much use to it, other than visual appeal. I won't be attacking anyone at 20k. The next question, I guess, is the minimum surface and so on...

I guess one way around the "uber WO" would be to take out his ability to tell range (which would be kind of fine, seeing how super-accurate he always is...). He'd just give you a bearing and off you'd go...

irishred · 07-19-05, 11:50 AM

Can someone upload this for those of us without hexing skills?

Egan · 07-19-05, 12:19 PM

One thing I would be concerned about is this: Smoke from a convoy can obviously be seen from a fair distance. But what about single ships...wouldn't those long ranges be wrong for single ships?

CCIP · 07-19-05, 12:32 PM

Well, as far as I understand, a single ship could be spotted by mast heads and smoke from far enough. Certainly from the 13-16km with no fog whatsoever that I seem to be getting.

Another piece of good news: it seems that fog visibility is not affected by increasing max range. Meaning you still get the same limits as you would have before, except in totally clear weather.

CCIP · 07-19-05, 12:53 PM

Heh, well - after playing with this fix more, I realized something: how often do you got Fog:None in the campaign? Not very often, I'd say. Which means that, well, the high range will only work on those perfect days which you rarely get. Which means that the actual importance of it is pretty much marginal.

The radar fix that Jungman came up with is, in this case, the more important find I think.

Lanzfeld · 07-19-05, 01:06 PM

This is one of the most important discoverys ever for this game.

07-18-05, 08:58 AM	#3
Duke of Earl Medic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 20 Meter von einer Wasserbombe Posts: 169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	@Jungman... thanks for the tip.. wasn't getting any noticeable results from the hex edits in the AI_Sensors.dat file anywho... so, got rid of those and replaced it with the Vanilla file.. Did some 'MaxElevation' edits to all the FuMO's I could find in the Sensors.dat fle.. Also, did some 'MaxRange' and 'PreciseRange' edits in the 'Periscope' and 'Visual' sections of Sensors.dat Maybe something will happen now... if this works, then I'm gonna make some small changes to the GHG, KDB, etc. hydrophones too... Ooops... forgot about your DD Sonar fix... better put that back in.. Cordialement, Duke of Earl __________________ U-627.... das \'Wabo-Magnet\'

07-18-05, 02:14 PM	#5
Duke of Earl Medic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 20 Meter von einer Wasserbombe Posts: 169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ok... using the FuMO 30 Radar with 'MaxElevation' hex edit (180 changed to 360) in Sensors.dat file... Single contact @ 5300 (not bad)... radar wheel shows contact bearing @ approx. 213... NavChart shows bearing @ 153... RO calls out bearing @153... Not exactly a 180 deg error.. appears to be 60 deg outta-wack now... but still an error.. more tests to follow... I might have screwed up the hex edit, so I need to reverify the hex values... Cordialement, Duke of Earl __________________ U-627.... das \'Wabo-Magnet\'

07-19-05, 11:01 AM	#10
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Jackpot. Thanks Jungman. Keep us up with the discoveries, and I'll keep testing to see how things work. I don't really mind not being able to see as far since frankly... well, there's not that much use to it, other than visual appeal. I won't be attacking anyone at 20k. The next question, I guess, is the minimum surface and so on... I guess one way around the "uber WO" would be to take out his ability to tell range (which would be kind of fine, seeing how super-accurate he always is...). He'd just give you a bearing and off you'd go... __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

07-19-05, 12:32 PM	#13
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Well, as far as I understand, a single ship could be spotted by mast heads and smoke from far enough. Certainly from the 13-16km with no fog whatsoever that I seem to be getting. Another piece of good news: it seems that fog visibility is not affected by increasing max range. Meaning you still get the same limits as you would have before, except in totally clear weather. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

07-19-05, 12:53 PM	#14
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Heh, well - after playing with this fix more, I realized something: how often do you got Fog:None in the campaign? Not very often, I'd say. Which means that, well, the high range will only work on those perfect days which you rarely get. Which means that the actual importance of it is pretty much marginal. The radar fix that Jungman came up with is, in this case, the more important find I think. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

07-18-05, 06:11 AM	#1
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Wnderful discovery. I wish you luck with the testing. One thing that might bring me back to another patrol of SH3 could be just that.

07-18-05, 06:48 AM	#2
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Very nice discovery. Many of us will be waiting to hear about your testing!

07-18-05, 01:22 PM	#4
R48 Loader Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 86 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Jungman, You are a man with a mission! Excellent work. I'm looking forward to what you come up with.

07-18-05, 02:18 PM	#6
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	is the problame not the fact that its the smoke we should see first, not the ship? there doesnt seem to be any AI setting for this.

07-18-05, 04:30 PM	#7
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Well there's no way to make us see smoke at 15km off I think. But h4x0ring the AI files might make it possible for your WO to spot ships at ranges further than the 8000 meter Sphere of Fogginess that you seem to live in (translate: render engine clips visual range at 8000m). So you can't see stuff further out. At least that is how I interpret it.

07-19-05, 11:50 AM	#11
irishred Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 107 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Can someone upload this for those of us without hexing skills?

07-19-05, 12:19 PM	#12
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	One thing I would be concerned about is this: Smoke from a convoy can obviously be seen from a fair distance. But what about single ships...wouldn't those long ranges be wrong for single ships?

07-19-05, 01:06 PM	#15
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	This is one of the most important discoverys ever for this game.