Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks - Page 4

Batch · 11-21-10, 12:10 PM

Hey Sailors !

Anyone know what became of Legion's Noob Guide for casual gamers ? I am new to Silent Hunter 4 and have found the manual totally inadequate.

Regards,

Batch

Diopos · 11-21-10, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Batch

Hey Sailors !

Anyone know what became of Legion's Noob Guide for casual gamers ? I am new to Silent Hunter 4 and have found the manual totally inadequate.

Regards,

Batch

Link

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Batch · 11-21-10, 01:01 PM

Diopos,

Thanks a Million !!!

Batch

Solidsnake2234 · 10-16-11, 04:06 PM

I need the Sonar manual targeting, yet all the downloads were erased from the website it's on. can anyone help me?

Rockin Robbins · 10-16-11, 07:54 PM

I'm still looking for a sticky place to put all the video downloads. The written tutorials and mods are okay, but the videos were all dumped by Filefront when they became Gamefront. They're busily destroying their usefulness and that is somehow supposed to make them money. It's very complicated I'm sure and it resulted in this community losing a lot of valuable information.

I had planned for that to happen from the beginning and have all my material backed up locally. But, as I said, I'm still looking for a good and sticky place to put it all back on the web.

Any ideas?

EDIT: I am uploading the WernerSobe videos to 2shared right now. We'll see how long they live. When the files are uploaded I will update links. Sure wish these tutorials could live on Subsim where they would be valued and preserved.

White Owl · 10-16-11, 08:11 PM

I'll toss out the kinda obvious suggestion for the tutorial videos: how about Youtube?

Rockin Robbins · 10-16-11, 08:47 PM

Stooooooooooooopid me. Duh. That's a brilliant solution and I'll get right on it.

In the meantime the WernerSobe video links are now fixed in post #1 and point to 2shared for now. That will change as I get videos to You Tube.

Thanks for the necessary step of pointing me to the obvious! Yikes. Just when I had it all together I forgot where I put it! Somebody slug me.........

White Owl · 10-16-11, 08:51 PM

It only seemed obvious to me because it seems I spend half my internet time these days uploading things to Youtube.

19Herr_Rapp86 · 10-16-11, 10:11 PM

I seem to have found a reliable solution for destroyers. (Though not recommended. My tactics seem to be more aggressive than a lot of the sub skippers I see on here. Besides, the speed and maneuverability of a destroyer make for a poor target and tend to waste fish.) So far, have successfully sank 14 destroyers using this method, and would be good to note that I have only encountered 14 destroyers on my patrols

I set my course to have a 0 degree bearing on my target. When he commences his attack run (points his bow straight at you, pings with active sonar, and starts zig-zagging), I completely clear the TDC, set first to fire at a 0 degree bearing, next 2 (in rapid succession), at 5 degree left and right bearings, and the next 2 at 8 degree right and left bearings. The destroyer can not as it seems, outmaneuver that particular spread of fish. It seems thus far as a good destroyer tactic. (Though please keep in mind that it requires 5 torpedoes, not counting the possibility of duds, run-deeps, etc, and that I personally recommend not attacking a destroyer unless the situation is absolutely perfect for you and you have not been detected. This method I will note is for use when you have been detected and the destroyer is making his attack run) (also to note, the best range for this particular spread is between (1200 and 900 yards)

Rockin Robbins · 10-17-11, 10:18 AM

That would work. But expending five torpedoes for 1300 tons is mighty expensive tonnage. That's one I would only use if my life depended on it. Usually I put 'em on my stern and do the same zero degree solution in the TDC. I preset the TDC into send bearing/range mode.

I hit ahead emergency as the DD comes up on me, lock the target and hit the send bearing/range button. Then it's attack map time. As soon as he gets inside 450 yards, fire one and hit crash dive, keeping full throtte. make a turn when you're 100' down or so, straighten out the rudder when you're at least 45º off course, wait for "passing thermal layer" and hit the silent running button <ctrl-z>.

That way either I heard a boom and I got my DD or I missed and I'm safe. Either way I've only collected 1/4 of the guaranteed misses of the high probability shot and can try four more times if I have to. This is about a one-third chance of sinking the DD. The key is to continue in a straight line as you dive until after the torpedo hits or misses. Then make your avoidance turn. Too early and he will follow the turn resulting in a guaranteed miss.

Rockin Robbins · 10-17-11, 10:19 AM

Videos are uploaded to You Tube and all links in post 1 are good to go!

norppis · 01-27-12, 01:44 AM

Oh wow, as a new subsimmer these are veery helpful!

I'm goin' down · 01-27-12, 03:07 AM

all of the links are great. For attacks, if you want to start with the basics, I would look at the constant bearing technique, and move on the the Dick O'Kane method. When you get really good at those, move on to manual targeting using the Easy Aob mod, the OTC mod, or, if you have lots of time on your hands, the 3D TDC and Radar Range Mod. Mobo is the most incredible program in the forum. It will knock your socks off.

Just so you know, RSRDC is a mod that mirrors Japanese convoy and task force traffic in the war. So, for example, if you want to fight in the battle of Midway, the enemy fleet will be at that location in June '42. Same for Coral Sea, the Marianas Turkey Shoot, etc.

ReallyDedPoet · 02-14-12, 02:10 PM

Great job here RR

Rockin Robbins · 02-20-12, 04:07 PM

Thanks RDP. I just have to find a home for my longer videos. You Tube has me chopped off after 8 minutes and other homes have been too temporary. Still working on it!

11-21-10, 01:01 PM	#3
Batch Nub Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Legion's NOOB Guide Diopos, Thanks a Million !!! Batch

10-16-11, 04:06 PM	#4
Solidsnake2234 Seaman Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New York Posts: 34 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	Help! I need the Sonar manual targeting, yet all the downloads were erased from the website it's on. can anyone help me?

10-16-11, 07:54 PM	#5
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I'm still looking for a sticky place to put all the video downloads. The written tutorials and mods are okay, but the videos were all dumped by Filefront when they became Gamefront. They're busily destroying their usefulness and that is somehow supposed to make them money. It's very complicated I'm sure and it resulted in this community losing a lot of valuable information. I had planned for that to happen from the beginning and have all my material backed up locally. But, as I said, I'm still looking for a good and sticky place to put it all back on the web. Any ideas? EDIT: I am uploading the WernerSobe videos to 2shared right now. We'll see how long they live. When the files are uploaded I will update links. Sure wish these tutorials could live on Subsim where they would be valued and preserved. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-16-11, 08:11 PM	#6
White Owl Loader Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 90 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 2	I'll toss out the kinda obvious suggestion for the tutorial videos: how about Youtube? __________________ "Ship?" he called. "Yup?" said the ship. "Do what I do." The ship thought about this for a few milliseconds and then, after double checking all the seals on its heavy duty bulkheads, it began slowly, inexorably, in the hazy blaze of its lights, to sink to the lowest depths.

10-16-11, 08:47 PM	#7
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Stooooooooooooopid me. Duh. That's a brilliant solution and I'll get right on it. In the meantime the WernerSobe video links are now fixed in post #1 and point to 2shared for now. That will change as I get videos to You Tube. Thanks for the necessary step of pointing me to the obvious! Yikes. Just when I had it all together I forgot where I put it! Somebody slug me......... __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

11-21-10, 12:10 PM	#1
Batch Nub Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Legion's Noob Guide Hey Sailors ! Anyone know what became of Legion's Noob Guide for casual gamers ? I am new to Silent Hunter 4 and have found the manual totally inadequate. Regards, Batch

10-16-11, 08:51 PM	#8
White Owl Loader Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 90 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 2	It only seemed obvious to me because it seems I spend half my internet time these days uploading things to Youtube. __________________ "Ship?" he called. "Yup?" said the ship. "Do what I do." The ship thought about this for a few milliseconds and then, after double checking all the seals on its heavy duty bulkheads, it began slowly, inexorably, in the hazy blaze of its lights, to sink to the lowest depths.

10-16-11, 10:11 PM	#9
19Herr_Rapp86 Lieutenant Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ellinwood, Kansas Posts: 260 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	I seem to have found a reliable solution for destroyers. (Though not recommended. My tactics seem to be more aggressive than a lot of the sub skippers I see on here. Besides, the speed and maneuverability of a destroyer make for a poor target and tend to waste fish.) So far, have successfully sank 14 destroyers using this method, and would be good to note that I have only encountered 14 destroyers on my patrols I set my course to have a 0 degree bearing on my target. When he commences his attack run (points his bow straight at you, pings with active sonar, and starts zig-zagging), I completely clear the TDC, set first to fire at a 0 degree bearing, next 2 (in rapid succession), at 5 degree left and right bearings, and the next 2 at 8 degree right and left bearings. The destroyer can not as it seems, outmaneuver that particular spread of fish. It seems thus far as a good destroyer tactic. (Though please keep in mind that it requires 5 torpedoes, not counting the possibility of duds, run-deeps, etc, and that I personally recommend not attacking a destroyer unless the situation is absolutely perfect for you and you have not been detected. This method I will note is for use when you have been detected and the destroyer is making his attack run) (also to note, the best range for this particular spread is between (1200 and 900 yards) __________________ Kapitanleutnant Rapp, Kommandant U-45

10-17-11, 10:18 AM	#10
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	That would work. But expending five torpedoes for 1300 tons is mighty expensive tonnage. That's one I would only use if my life depended on it. Usually I put 'em on my stern and do the same zero degree solution in the TDC. I preset the TDC into send bearing/range mode. I hit ahead emergency as the DD comes up on me, lock the target and hit the send bearing/range button. Then it's attack map time. As soon as he gets inside 450 yards, fire one and hit crash dive, keeping full throtte. make a turn when you're 100' down or so, straighten out the rudder when you're at least 45º off course, wait for "passing thermal layer" and hit the silent running button <ctrl-z>. That way either I heard a boom and I got my DD or I missed and I'm safe. Either way I've only collected 1/4 of the guaranteed misses of the high probability shot and can try four more times if I have to. This is about a one-third chance of sinking the DD. The key is to continue in a straight line as you dive until after the torpedo hits or misses. Then make your avoidance turn. Too early and he will follow the turn resulting in a guaranteed miss. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-17-11, 10:19 AM	#11
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Videos are uploaded to You Tube and all links in post 1 are good to go! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

01-27-12, 01:44 AM	#12
norppis Nub Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 3 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Oh wow, as a new subsimmer these are veery helpful!

01-27-12, 03:07 AM	#13
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	norppis all of the links are great. For attacks, if you want to start with the basics, I would look at the constant bearing technique, and move on the the Dick O'Kane method. When you get really good at those, move on to manual targeting using the Easy Aob mod, the OTC mod, or, if you have lots of time on your hands, the 3D TDC and Radar Range Mod. Mobo is the most incredible program in the forum. It will knock your socks off. Just so you know, RSRDC is a mod that mirrors Japanese convoy and task force traffic in the war. So, for example, if you want to fight in the battle of Midway, the enemy fleet will be at that location in June '42. Same for Coral Sea, the Marianas Turkey Shoot, etc.

02-14-12, 02:10 PM	#14
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,884 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Great job here RR __________________ Back in the Day

02-20-12, 04:07 PM	#15
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Thanks RDP. I just have to find a home for my longer videos. You Tube has me chopped off after 8 minutes and other homes have been too temporary. Still working on it! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS