Federal Judge blocks parts of the Arizona immigration law

SteamWake · 07-28-10, 01:12 PM

Not supprising really legislation from the bench.... again....

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Originally Posted by Yahoo News

PHOENIX – A federal judge on Wednesday blocked the most controversial parts of Arizona's immigration from taking effect, delivering a last-minute victory to opponents of the crackdown.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_arizona_immigration

ETR3(SS) · 07-28-10, 01:39 PM

Just a thought here, but wouldn't it be interesting if ICE started tracking down and deporting any illegal immigrant that made statements to the media indicating their illegal status? Wonder how that would go?

07-28-10, 02:19 PM

Looks like another chapter of a book that should be titled,
"The Selling Out Of USA".

WarlordATF · 07-28-10, 03:04 PM

Yet another case of putting the Illegals ahead of the Citizens. I can't wait until November, its time to shut this administration down and todays ruling will only help the cause.

I'm sure that right now alot of people smarter than me are digging into this Judges background looking for any dirt that can be used against her, i hope they find some.

The only way now to fight back is to boycott any business that you suspect uses illegal workers. There is no law preventing a regular citizen from profiling, if it starts to hurt those with legal status then too bad, they should have supported us when we needed it.

The Funny thing is until this Country decended into insanity i couldn't have cared less about Politics.

ETR3(SS) · 07-28-10, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WarlordATF

The only way now to fight back is to boycott any business that you suspect uses illegal workers. There is no law preventing a regular citizen from profiling, if it starts to hurt those with legal status then too bad, they should have supported us when we needed it.

Just out of curiosity, how are you going to tell what business use illegals? Also I've heard that agricultural is done by a lot of illegals as well. Plan on boycotting the grocery store?

Now don't get me wrong on the topic, illegal is illegal in my book and something needs to be done.

WarlordATF · 07-28-10, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Just out of curiosity, how are you going to tell what business use illegals? Also I've heard that agricultural is done by a lot of illegals as well. Plan on boycotting the grocery store?

Now don't get me wrong on the topic, illegal is illegal in my book and something needs to be done.

Im refering more to the local level, your lawn service,your plumbers,construction companys, your corner store, your restarants, ect. if you suspect (You don't have to be sure, just go by gut instinct) they are hiring illegals don't give them your business. If you hired them and you see a bunch of suspected illegals on your property, fire them.

I have already done this with two lawn care companys where only one or two guys spoke english on a crew of 10 to 12. Its far from perfect, but there is little else you can do. If this makes me a racist then so be it, there are far worse things i have been called before.

@Zachstar I still support drilling, We have the oil here why are we giving billions to the arabs for it? The problem with this mess was clearly the fact that they were permitted to modify the overflow valve that normally would have shut this mess down right away. The problem is the politics of the situation, had the rules been followed this would not have happened.

Zachstar · 07-28-10, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WarlordATF

Yet another case of putting the Illegals ahead of the Citizens. I can't wait until November, its time to shut this administration down and todays ruling will only help the cause.

I'm sure that right now alot of people smarter than me are digging into this Judges background looking for any dirt that can be used against her, i hope they find some.

The only way now to fight back is to boycott any business that you suspect uses illegal workers. There is no law preventing a regular citizen from profiling, if it starts to hurt those with legal status then too bad, they should have supported us when we needed it.

The Funny thing is until this Country decended into insanity i couldn't have cared less about Politics.

Trust me the left screamed bloody murder when judges tied to the oil industry ruled to keep drilling going. Nobody gives a rats butt about "background"

07-28-10, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WarlordATF

Yet another case of putting the Illegals ahead of the Citizens. I can't wait until November, its time to shut this administration down and todays ruling will only help the cause.

That all sounds good but, all you have is The Left (Democrats), and The Artificial "Right" (Republicans).

The Republican Party has been moved to a position just to the right of The Democratic Party, which is still a Hard Left position.

Your whole deck of cards is marked (dirty).
The only way to fix it peacefuly, is to change the whole deck.

Zachstar · 07-28-10, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

That all sounds good but, all you have is The Left (Democrats), and The Artificial "Right" (Republicans).

The Republican Party has been moved to a position just to the right of The Democratic Party, which is still a Hard Left position.

Your whole deck of cards is marked (dirty).
The only way to fix it peacefuly, is to change the whole deck.

Just right of the dems? Anti-Choice Anti-Regulation even after a financial disaster Religion in politics? Pro-DOMA and Pro-DADT is that the republicans you call just right?

You sir are scary.

ETR3(SS) · 08-03-10, 10:16 AM

There's one surefire way to stem the flow of illegals, annex Mexico!

Sailor Steve · 08-03-10, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

There's one surefire way to stem the flow of illegals, annex Mexico!

There was one faction that proposed exactly that after the Mexican-American war of 1846-1848. I'm not saying it is really the answer, or even an answer, but I can see a couple of benefits:

All Mexicans would become Americans, which would solve the "illegal" question.

Mexico would be brought up to American standards, ending the desire to go from there to here.

The US southern border would become much smaller, and much easier to patrol (or even wall off if desired).

And those are observations, not suggestions, and not to be taken seriously.

ETR3(SS) · 08-03-10, 11:23 AM

Oh it's by no means meant to be a serious answer, and I think you understood that too. If we did annex Mexico, all of the violence that happens down there with the various cartels would then be our problem to deal with. Mexico's economy isn't something to laugh at but it wouldn't last as all the manufacturing jobs there would leave in search of cheaper labor elsewhere. So the cons outweigh the pros to this one.

Sailor Steve · 08-03-10, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Oh it's by no means meant to be a serious answer, and I think you understood that too.

Oh, absolutely. I just wanted to point out that at one point it was considered seriously.

I agree that the cons outway the pros, but the pros are interesting.

07-28-10, 01:39 PM	#2
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Just a thought here, but wouldn't it be interesting if ICE started tracking down and deporting any illegal immigrant that made statements to the media indicating their illegal status? Wonder how that would go? __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

07-28-10, 03:04 PM	#4
WarlordATF Frogman Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SW Florida Posts: 288 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Yet another case of putting the Illegals ahead of the Citizens. I can't wait until November, its time to shut this administration down and todays ruling will only help the cause. I'm sure that right now alot of people smarter than me are digging into this Judges background looking for any dirt that can be used against her, i hope they find some. The only way now to fight back is to boycott any business that you suspect uses illegal workers. There is no law preventing a regular citizen from profiling, if it starts to hurt those with legal status then too bad, they should have supported us when we needed it. The Funny thing is until this Country decended into insanity i couldn't have cared less about Politics. __________________

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ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	There's one surefire way to stem the flow of illegals, annex Mexico! __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

08-03-10, 11:23 AM	#12
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Oh it's by no means meant to be a serious answer, and I think you understood that too. If we did annex Mexico, all of the violence that happens down there with the various cartels would then be our problem to deal with. Mexico's economy isn't something to laugh at but it wouldn't last as all the manufacturing jobs there would leave in search of cheaper labor elsewhere. So the cons outweigh the pros to this one. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

07-28-10, 02:19 PM	#3
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Looks like another chapter of a book that should be titled, "The Selling Out Of USA".