DCG Campaign: Battle of France - Page 4

Task Force · 11-12-08, 11:51 AM

Yes its all true, thats why Oberon put this part in his report.

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Something wasn't right with his control stick though

He said that he will host agian after his new Joystick arrives. (if the postal service dosent lose it)

I think I heard something about fin hosting a server though.

Schroeder · 11-12-08, 01:25 PM

So it seems I will be in red wing flying the old Hurrie.
Hello.... Hunter..... your favorite smartass is about to join your wing on friday.....

@ Fin

If you stall the engine you can switch it on again. You might have to try several times until it really starts up again but if you have a few hundered meters of altitude you should be able to restart it.

Task Force · 11-12-08, 01:52 PM

Yes, im experimenting with ways to keep it on when doing -Gs, gona see if putting the throttle low or off helps any.:hmm:

Schroeder · 11-12-08, 02:13 PM

It does. If you drop the throttle to zero you can do negative gs without a problem.

Fincuan · 11-12-08, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

@ Fin

If you stall the engine you can switch it on again. You might have to try several times until it really starts up again but if you have a few hundered meters of altitude you should be able to restart it.

No ****

Of course I know that, but It's kind of hard to restart it after you get the "Engine inoperable" message

Oberon · 11-12-08, 02:30 PM

Aaah, the float carburetor, the bane of anyone who isn't used to it

Split-S is your one and only friend

Don't bunt, you'll cut your engine out and/or rip your wings off.

Another thing to note with the Mark I Spit, I don't know if this is modelled in IL2 (haven't had much of a chance to play with the Spit offline yet) but I found myself in a slight spot of bother in the Spit on BOBII the other day. Dived after a 109 to see if I'd managed to down him (I had) and picked up a fair bit of speed in my dive, then couldn't pull up or turn port or starboard. The wind speed over my wings must have reduced the effectiveness of the control surfaces, I've read about this but it's the first time I've noticed it in action. So that's something to keep an eye out for.
However, below 20,000 feet, you can out-turn the 109s for the most part, and you're also slightly faster. Above 20,000 feet however the advantage goes to the Germans. You're also faster on the level than the 109, only by about twenty mph though, and your key altitude for best performance is in the region of 11,000 to 16,000 feet. However, the 109 has a better armament than you, so keep your eyes on that mirror, it's a godsend.

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html

At the end of the day though, it all boils down to who you're facing, in this case it's Olegs world, so the 109s would probably have the flight ability of a Eurofighter Typhoon, thus making this discussion point moot.

Fincuan · 11-12-08, 03:00 PM

In Olegworld(in the hands of AI) the 109E4 climbs better and is faster than the Spit MkI up to about 6000 meters, after which the Spit slowly edges ahead. You can outturn it with ease at all altitudes. My engine stall happened very classically: I dove on a 109, and when I got to 300 meters it did the classical AI split-s. Forgetting I was in a Spit I pushed the stick forwards in order to keep the lead, and *scriits scraats* "Engine inoperable"

I read somewhere that not only do the Spit's controls get very heavy at high speed, but also that the roll controls might reverse. What happens is that when ailerons are used the entire wings twist, not only countering the aileron movements but cancelling them totally out and making the aircraft roll the OTHER WAY you wanted. How scary would that be the first time you experience it

Raptor1 · 11-12-08, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

How scary would that be the first time you experience it

Depending on what altitude you are in, being scared might be the least of your concerns

Oberon · 11-12-08, 03:19 PM

Anyrud, I take it that because of the loss of our squadron leader that the France campaign is on hold until the fitters repair his control stick?
If so then I'll not worry about reclaiming the IL2 machine off SWMBO.

HunterICX · 11-12-08, 03:22 PM

THIS....IS SAITEK!!!

*BOOT!*

HunterICX

Oberon · 11-12-08, 03:26 PM

My god!! Did they airdrop that?! That was bloody quick!!

Task Force · 11-12-08, 03:32 PM

Well looks as if your mail system is faster than the one over here.

If I didnt know any better Id think it poped out of your internet connection.

Btw, you had the same joystick I have.

HunterICX · 11-12-08, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force

Well looks as if your mail system is faster than the one over here.

If I didnt know any better Id think it poped out of your internet connection.

Btw, you had the same joystick I have.

I went to get the joystick, there is a PC city shop near me so it was just hopping by to check out and I spotted this one directly

HunterICX

Oberon · 11-12-08, 04:08 PM

"Two section SCRAMBLE!!"

Fincuan · 11-12-08, 04:47 PM

I'm flying with JG53 atm, but will try to join you guys later on. We're just starting the second and last mission tonight, but it might still take a while.

11-12-08, 01:25 PM	#47
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	So it seems I will be in red wing flying the old Hurrie. Hello.... Hunter..... your favorite smartass is about to join your wing on friday..... @ Fin If you stall the engine you can switch it on again. You might have to try several times until it really starts up again but if you have a few hundered meters of altitude you should be able to restart it. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

11-12-08, 01:52 PM	#48
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Yes, im experimenting with ways to keep it on when doing -Gs, gona see if putting the throttle low or off helps any.:hmm: __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

11-12-08, 02:13 PM	#49
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	It does. If you drop the throttle to zero you can do negative gs without a problem. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

11-12-08, 03:22 PM	#55
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	THIS....IS SAITEK!!! *BOOT!* HunterICX __________________

11-12-08, 03:32 PM	#57
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well looks as if your mail system is faster than the one over here. If I didnt know any better Id think it poped out of your internet connection. Btw, you had the same joystick I have. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time" Last edited by Task Force; 11-12-08 at 03:33 PM.

11-12-08, 02:30 PM	#51
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Aaah, the float carburetor, the bane of anyone who isn't used to it Split-S is your one and only friend Don't bunt, you'll cut your engine out and/or rip your wings off. Another thing to note with the Mark I Spit, I don't know if this is modelled in IL2 (haven't had much of a chance to play with the Spit offline yet) but I found myself in a slight spot of bother in the Spit on BOBII the other day. Dived after a 109 to see if I'd managed to down him (I had) and picked up a fair bit of speed in my dive, then couldn't pull up or turn port or starboard. The wind speed over my wings must have reduced the effectiveness of the control surfaces, I've read about this but it's the first time I've noticed it in action. So that's something to keep an eye out for. However, below 20,000 feet, you can out-turn the 109s for the most part, and you're also slightly faster. Above 20,000 feet however the advantage goes to the Germans. You're also faster on the level than the 109, only by about twenty mph though, and your key altitude for best performance is in the region of 11,000 to 16,000 feet. However, the 109 has a better armament than you, so keep your eyes on that mirror, it's a godsend. http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html At the end of the day though, it all boils down to who you're facing, in this case it's Olegs world, so the 109s would probably have the flight ability of a Eurofighter Typhoon, thus making this discussion point moot.

11-12-08, 03:00 PM	#52
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	In Olegworld(in the hands of AI) the 109E4 climbs better and is faster than the Spit MkI up to about 6000 meters, after which the Spit slowly edges ahead. You can outturn it with ease at all altitudes. My engine stall happened very classically: I dove on a 109, and when I got to 300 meters it did the classical AI split-s. Forgetting I was in a Spit I pushed the stick forwards in order to keep the lead, and scriits scraats "Engine inoperable" I read somewhere that not only do the Spit's controls get very heavy at high speed, but also that the roll controls might reverse. What happens is that when ailerons are used the entire wings twist, not only countering the aileron movements but cancelling them totally out and making the aircraft roll the OTHER WAY you wanted. How scary would that be the first time you experience it

11-12-08, 03:19 PM	#54
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Anyrud, I take it that because of the loss of our squadron leader that the France campaign is on hold until the fitters repair his control stick? If so then I'll not worry about reclaiming the IL2 machine off SWMBO.

11-12-08, 03:26 PM	#56
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	My god!! Did they airdrop that?! That was bloody quick!!

11-12-08, 04:08 PM	#59
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	*"Two section SCRAMBLE!!"*

11-12-08, 04:47 PM	#60
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I'm flying with JG53 atm, but will try to join you guys later on. We're just starting the second and last mission tonight, but it might still take a while.