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Old 10-08-08, 07:15 AM   #46
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Old 10-08-08, 07:41 AM   #47
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Same here. I've been to another Forum where they had a similar function, and I just can't see the purpose of it.
The function is not to block difering opinions - as I was often accused of by the people I block - but to block people who mistake clearness about their agument and defending it - with personal attacks, using tricks, telling lies about their opponent to give them a bad name, and using foul tricks and pesonally hurting, aggressive rethoric in general. they would make wonderful campaign managers.

It is not about opinion at all, Steve. It is about a basic minimum of behavior rules. Even an aggressively voiced opinion totally different to my own views I do not block. With some of such people I even have regular email contact! but some other people worked long to get on my ignore list. Others, like the one who accused me some weeks ago that I would deeply regret that I cannot send people disagreeing with me into the gas chamber, just need one or to posts and by that reveal all you need to know about their attitude.

In real life I would avoid such people, or kick them out, it depends on the situation. Why should I be expected to tolerate such behavior in virtual space? I myself do not do things in virtual space that I would not do in real life. That means even a controversal thing I may defend here, I also defend in real life. For some things I say here and live by in raolity, I even pay aprice, and get threatend - and not just virtually. Just behaving rude because the other cannot reach you so easily in a forum, is maybe acceptable for others, but not for me - no matter in what direction it works.

That those that finally land on the ignore list are the ones trying to make clever comments on how shabby and censoring that is and that the other cannot handle their misbheavior, is not surprising. Because they cannot continue with what they would like to do: annoying the person that blocked them, and continuing to play dirty tricks and score cheap points en passant against the person in question. The UFO-thing above is a relatively harmless example, but the point is that experiencing it's scheme of functionality is not an exception with August, but the rule, and often it was not that harmeless, and on some occasions it was hurtful indeed. Maybe you have such unlimited patience to let such a person going on forever. But my tolerance knows limits - at some point I decide that enough is enough and that I won't take any more. Not always does a forum regulate itself if only you leave it alone and allow everything.

The ignore list is all about self-control. If you can't control yourself from responding (aka arguing) with posts that you believe are "below you", then you just put them on the ignore list and you don't have to worry about controlling yourself.

You also lose out on the opportunity to learn something because, no matter how foolish a person may appear to you, there is the possibility that they will make a point that you have never considered.

Obviously, this is all my opinion and is predicated upon having an open mind.
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Old 10-08-08, 08:31 AM   #48
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Obviously, this is all my opinion and is predicated upon having an open mind.
Reasoned thinking and open mind? You are real close to making the list Pal!
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Old 10-08-08, 09:03 AM   #49
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I am going to officially protest the anti-Skybird tone this thread has taken.

He and I disagree about a multitude of things, but we get along just fine. He has been nothing but amicable and respectful in all our correspondences.

And if he wants to put people on the ignore list, that's his choice.

And he does have some good points from time to time, even if I don't always agree with his logic.

I won't say anything else because Sky can speak for himself better than I can.


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Old 10-08-08, 09:43 AM   #50
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I am going to officially protest the anti-Skybird tone this thread has taken.


He and I disagree about a multitude of things, but we get along just fine. He has been nothing but amicable and respectful in all our correspondences.

And if he wants to put people on the ignore list, that's his choice.

And he does have some good points from time to time, even if I don't always agree with his logic.

I won't say anything else because Sky can speak for himself better than I can.


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I agree with you. But he needs to be able to take what he dishes out. He has an opinion like all of us, of which he is convicted. Great minds have debated religion for years. This is why colleges have courses in world religion and theology. The world does not spin around Skybird, sorry...
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Old 10-08-08, 10:15 AM   #51
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The ignore list is all about self-control. If you can't control yourself from responding (aka arguing) with posts that you believe are "below you", then you just put them on the ignore list and you don't have to worry about controlling yourself.
Völlig bescheuerte Wortverdreherei. It's never enough, right? That final arrow, that last knife, it needs to be thrown at the others back, right? Always, right? and if he complains, it is his fault that he is so "sensible" and lacks self-control, right?

One needs to be only rude enough oneself, then the rest of the world appears as too "sensible".

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You also lose out on the opportunity to learn something because, no matter how foolish a person may appear to you, there is the possibility that they will make a point that you have never considered.
At some point, that becomes simply uneconomic, and the ratio between what you maybe, eventually, in rare events, may gain from accepting yourself getting attacked, namecalled, drawn into mudthrowing time and again simply does not calculate well anymore.

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Obviously, this is all my opinion and is predicated upon having an open mind.
Translates into: I take total freedom to say whatever I want, I label it my opinion and by that I expect not any criticism for it, for it is my "OPINION". No matter wether it really is, or not.

I can live with people's opinion different from mine. I am also clever enough to realise when they just instrumentalise the term and the freedom of speech for very different purposes than just to voice their "opinion" - for example for getting in that last blow and hoping to get away without punishment.

Whatever. Bye.
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Old 10-08-08, 10:36 AM   #52
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In a way one could say relgions are hypocrisy. They claim to have knowledge that they have not, nevertheless they form it into a dogma and infest society with it. Especially kids.

Child abuse that is called.
Yes, you could say that. I believe you just did. And I'm sure you believe it. Correct that, I'm sure you know that it's true. You've dogmatized your disbelief in religion and are attempting to infest society with your beliefs . Adult abuse that is called.

I award that round to DT.
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