I keep hearing about " Other games are buggy when they come out "

[Lionman]

Originally Posted by fastfed

Go away troll?? I might of been exaggerating a little with WW2online.. They still haven't fixed that game..

I am 27 years old and have been playing games since Pole position on attari and Silent Service on my commodore..

The bottom line is I have never put a game away after buying it until SH4, I don't know what bugs you're talking about with BF2, because I played the game from day one all the way until the many patches after it. I didn't notice the bugs until reading forums and the readme's on the patches..

Nothing has even been such a disappointment until SH4 and thats the truth!

I am 6000 years old and have been playing games since the legendary "Tryanosaurus Racer" from the now defunct Silurian Studios, on an early model low RAM alpha model stone circle which I put together myself from Welsh blue stone - so what beats me is how cool some of these new fangled video game thingees you kids have now really are! Submarines aye? Marvellous idea! Sure would have helped hunting stegasori in-water! Now that's what I CALL a "super-lunch-hunter".

However, although I have searched far and wide above and below the waves, so far I haven't found a single wolf, so obviously you are right about there being plenty of bugs as yet. I guess I'll just sit here by my camp fire until it's dark enough to navigate by the stars again. Anyway, I hears me a rumour that them visigoths might be a'coming this way . . . . . better load them bow tubes agin!

OK - seriously shipmates - I am 60+ and my first PC was the legendary "BBC B" which was, in its day, "state-of-the-art" because it had coloured text (!) but mine was eventually re-tro-fitted with 128K (!) of "sideways RAM" as they called it back then, an early GUI, a Viglen mouse and metal boxed twin 5.5" disk drives with their own second extra computer, a zilog ZX80 chip! The office software was the "Perfect Software Suite" and I used to play wire frame DOS flight sims on a black screen! Now THAT took imagination and persistence.

So I am pretty tolerant of bugs in early releases of contemporary games now. I still find it a miracle that all those trillions of lines of code and blizzards of data can produce a believable stormy ocean and convincing weather, also perhaps, I am considerably more patient than I once was. Oh and in between there was a professional career on and under the real ocean, so for me, virtual voyages pander to a profound nostalgia . . . . once you have lived on, under and by it, the ocean's grip never really let's you go again. It's a jealous and dangerous mistress but the most ancient thing our DNA knows and the love runs deep indeed . . .

[fastfed]

Originally Posted by Sharkfood

Dear Fastfed,


What do you understand after reading the comments so far?I tell you what i understand (and i think what game companies understand):

No matter how much you rush a game,no matter how many the bugs,it's ok!Because people are so used to them now,that they have learnt to accept paying for a product ,that if it was ANYTHING ELSE than a PC game,they would ask their money back.Of course you can't do that with PC games ,because of the law of the jungle that exists in this sector.

I hear ya!I had a Commodore too.Ah,the old times,where "patch" was an unknown word...(yes,much simpler games,yet companies were much smaller too,relying on a very small market,but respecting the customer,probably exactly because the customer was precious).

Human is a creature driven by habbits.Make him used to a situation and he will never complain again.They could even sell unfinished books and you would see that people would still buy them ,waiting for the author to release the final chapter as "patch".

Why would a company respect the customer,when the customer doesn't respect himself?Ubi only watches the cash flow.As long as it's at expected levels,there is nothing wrong with releasing half finished games.And the majority of people have no problem with it!It has become a competition of who has played the buggiest game!LOL!How insane can that be? :rotfl: When SH 5 will come out full of bugs,people will be saying "Remember how awful SH4 was?So get over it!" LOL! It's amazing how much a person can take and even pay for it!

I agree with you,put the game aside and wait some months.I was so tired with SH3 and waiting for the patches that by the time 1.4b came out,i was so bored that i wouldn't play anymore.Only GWX made me return.

So better wait and play the "FULL" game,after all the patches come out.

Cheers

Sharkfood

I understand alot that is being replied in this thread, but again, every game that I ever played, I never stopped due to bugs, sure there are bugs in almost every game but not to the point of the game not being able to be played ( Except WW2 online, but that was only due to the massive graphics back in the day )

I had to stop playing SH4 due to the bugs also maybe its mental but when you realize they can't even fix typo's in a manual, or make sure what the manual says is true to the game. Imagine getting a new car and it tells you little things like; open the glove box to press the trunk button, to pop the hood pull the lever under the steering colum, so on and so forth, only to find out nothing is there..

I could play tons of stock games and enjoy them, even SH3 I played stock for years till just recently, with GWX.

I will bet anything that the mods HAVE to make this game playable.

[fastfed]

Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim

'scuse me? I have all of those titles - and there was most certainly bugs, some of them fairly huge. The main difference between those and SH4 is the visibility of the bugs, due to an obvious lack of appreciation of the result, meant that you didn't see them.

Again.. Of course there are bugs in games, but no matter what people played BF1942 and BF2, non stop, from the day of release, how many people put this game down? how many people gave it up? I paid more for this game than I did for BF1942, people STILL play BF 1942, how many people are playing SH2 ?

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

Originally Posted by fastfed

Again.. Of course there are bugs in games, but no matter what people played BF1942 and BF2, non stop, from the day of release, how many people put this game down? how many people gave it up? I paid more for this game than I did for BF1942, people STILL play BF 1942, how many people are playing SH2 ?

People still play BF1942 because it was the best of the Battlefield series, SHII was holocaust.

[Egan]

Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim

[ SHII was holocaust.

Hey! I liked SH2. Sure, it was like a crippled, ugly puppy but I got many hours of enjoyment out of it. It also contained several features that should have been in SH3 and 4.

[Immacolata]

Originally Posted by P_Funk

Another Ubi game. In fact is everyone aware of the fact that they rushed Obsidian so much in this game that they had to remove an entire PLANET? After release the modding community found huge stores of game files that had just been cut from the game: voice edits from character development, rooms, an entire part of the story arc missing. All so it could be rushed to shelves. And to this day Kotor 2 fans feel cheated by it.

Kotor 2 has 2 possible endings. There were supposed to be 13. Think about it.

Ultima VII part 2: The Serpent Isle had massive hidden content that was cut in the last moment. Digital archeologists extracted a lot of endgame content that simply was unhooked some point before the game shipped. But remained in.

The practice is old. Now I just wish people wouldn't get so damn upset over bugs always. It ruins my game twice. First the bugs, then the endless whining over it. It is like when your vacation is ruined by a rainstorm and that obnoxious lady keeps moaning how rain ruined HER holidy. ... Like, STFU.

[Genferret]

Originally Posted by fastfed

LMAO!! Even WW2 online right out of the gate was more playable IMO.

Errr...

WWIIOL first day you had to download a patch that was bigger than what came on the CD in the box. After the 2nd patch that CD was just a nice coaster because you could download the entire game faster than you could install it from CD and patch it up.

It did get better for a year or so, now CRS seems hell bent upon driving customers away.

And, former 31st Wrecking Crew here. Former in the fact I don't play WWIIOL anymore, but I do still talk to Plastic and use a 31st WC emblem on my U-boats in SHIII.

Edit: Oh, and in regards to Ubi games as of late, while I haven't tried SHIV it's because of my experiences with Splinter Cell: Double Agent. Game still crashes a lot, was unplayable on my old video card (pre-release they said it would be supported, 1 month after release it got cut from cards supported for multiplayer). My new video card which is a GeForce 8800? Still not playable unless I disable certain options in the video settings.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Immacolata

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Now I just wish people wouldn't get so damn upset over bugs always. It ruins my game twice. First the bugs, then the endless whining over it. It is like when your vacation is ruined by a rainstorm and that obnoxious lady keeps moaning how rain ruined HER holidy. ... Like, STFU.

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[Audie]

Originally Posted by Immacolata

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Now I just wish people wouldn't get so damn upset over bugs always. It ruins my game twice. First the bugs, then the endless whining over it. It is like when your vacation is ruined by a rainstorm and that obnoxious lady keeps moaning how rain ruined HER holidy. ... Like, STFU.

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