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11-02-18, 08:01 AM | #5731 |
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You did not read what i wrote, or you did not get the meaning.
For me his body language is so revealing and unsympathetic that I plain cannot understand how some people do not (want to) see that. It is not about republicans, or left or right, or about Europe. We will see if his decisions are good for the USA in the long run. Problem for us in Europe is of course that worldwide trade depends in part on decisions of that man, with all what comes later. While i understand that a hard stance is being needed against e.g. China, i cannot understand the throwing overboard of social, technical and scientific achievements, of international treaties, trade and bonds that needed decades to develop. I also think he is dividing the US public. Just because something is bad for others, does not automatically mean it is good for the US. For me it looks as if mankind is drifting back to the middle ages.
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It is the same reason so many voters liked Reagan, even though he was the same type of right-wing conservative. Reagan was a S.O.B., but he was America's S.O.B. it's a tough world out there and you don't need a mealy-mouth, weak-kneed, politically-correct, Euro-loving, poll-reading politician who won't make any decisions that might offend some obscure interest group. You need someone who is not afraid to make the tough decisions and that is Trump.
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11-02-18, 09:07 AM | #5733 | |
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So in the way anti-Russian paranoia can be interpreted as... being pro-Russian.
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11-02-18, 09:50 AM | #5734 | |
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11-02-18, 09:56 AM | #5735 | |
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I don't understand ... You guys are talking the year 2020 when this is the year 2018. You must mean President Trump's party All things in the government go on hold for two (2) years if the GOP loses
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11-02-18, 10:09 AM | #5737 | |
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I think I love you This is in no way an endorsement for those gun grabbers at Levi's
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11-02-18, 10:12 AM | #5738 | |
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Anyway here is a perfect snapshot of the diversity in American political thought. These were the first two articles that appeared on the RCP website this morning. One "Vote for Democrats to end Trump assaults on truth, health care and families" is by the current Chair of the Democratic National Committee, Tom Perez. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/1836205002/ The other is by by Rep.Paul Ryan who is the speaker of the house. It's titled "Vote Republican to Keep America Prosperous". https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...ica-prosperous You would swear that these two men are talking about two different countries. Maybe they are.
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11-02-18, 10:24 PM | #5739 | ||
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A divider and a liar. You just described every politician in America. And probably the world. Was there ever a bigger divider than Obama? Before Obama, racial relations in the public eye were pretty good. Now look at things. In the normal world, out of the public eye, racial relations are still fine where I live. The stuff you see in the big depressed metropolitan cities is a whole different thing. But I have to say The Trumper is like a crazy brother in law who I never took seriously, but I am beginning to respect. He just does not fold up. He has gotten some serious business done. The partisan media have been bashing him from day 1 but he owns them. He doesn't care what you think of him. If he believes the US is getting the stinky end of the stick with China or Euro trade, he's gonna beat you on the head with it. Of course, Europe and China don't like it, no one likes it when the patsy fights back. As of 2014, NATO’s collective agreement instructed member countries to spend 2 percent of their gross domestic product on defense by 2024. According to NATO’s most recent report detailing members’ defense expenditures, only five countries currently satisfy that threshold: the United States, Greece, the United Kingdom, Estonia and Latvia. Come on Germany, pay your share. What puzzles me most, why do non-Americans get so frantic when we do something internally like his crashing the EPA with his puppet Pruitt, the reducing of former protected nature parks to allow companies to mine and driill in those areas. Dang man, why is that keeping you awake at night? Those are our nature parks. Let's assume the drilling will be done with some responsibility. You make it sound like we're going to turn a dragon loose on the landscape. We have plants and factories all over, that's our economy. We don't have a nice neighbor like Russia next door to buy gas from. And now I come to Madam Clinton: Quote:
Yeesh! This was the fakest, most power hungry candidate in the election. Be glad she's not the first woman President, let that honor go to someone we could respect. Trump was not my choice but 2 years later, I'm not regretting the election result one bit. Still a little embarrassed, but I'll live.
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11-03-18, 02:45 AM | #5740 |
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"Amy Chozick’s book Chasing Hillary: Ten Years, Two Presidential Campaigns, and One Intact Glass Ceiling. Chozick makes it clear that she was rooting for Clinton. But she also thinks Clinton hates her. Chozick shouldn’t take things so personally: Clinton hates everyone. YOU CAN’T RELATE TO PEOPLE YOU DESPISE."
That is my problem with Trump. I despised him before his political career, and I still despise him even though I see a glimmer of hope. Naive, I'm sure.
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We only have one planet and one environment. Arbitrary man made borders don't mean a thing for it. Most of the developed world has finally come to their senses and realized that we can't continue like this (there has been a recent WWF study that concluded that we've lost 60% of vertebrate animals between 1970 and 2014 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46028862 and while I take it with a grain of salt there is no denying that mankind is responsible of the extinction of craploads of life on this planet). Decisions like Trump's hurt the overall attempt of saving what we still have and that is saddening and will probably hurt us all in the long run.
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11-03-18, 09:21 AM | #5742 | |
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I have not examined all the regulatory changes in detail, I doubt I ever will. Like Catfish says, the people have the EPA to take care of the environment on their behalf, and yes, if the EPA decides not to do their job at all, we have a problem. I think we all agree there. My point, there is some room to change the extent the EPA and other agencies go in doing their job. I think in many cases the EPA goes too far. Like a nanny who wraps the child in bubble wrap. I guess we'll find out. Environmental hawks are crying that industry is going to lay waste to everything. Industry advocates scream that Obama era regulations went too far, past the point of protecting anything and into the zone of nuttiness. I'm guessing the truth lies somewhere in the middle, it depends on what you want to believe. I still say the only way out of this is to reduce the population and get people to stop living a modern life. As long as people want roads, cars, computers, TV programs, airliners, sewer pumps, more than 3 changes of clothing, buses, soccer matches -- all the things of modern life that need energy and materials to create, we will have these problems. We've built this massive train of civilization and progress, it's going to take a lot more than hope and little tweaks to our lifestyle to slow it down.
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11-03-18, 10:29 AM | #5743 | |
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If that happens i'm ok with it. Trump got us an Originalist leaning Supreme Court and that's good enough for me. If the Repubs hold the Senate he'll still likely be able to replace Ginsburg and maybe Breyer too and that'll be even better.
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11-03-18, 10:36 AM | #5744 |
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Here's a list of some of the EPA regulations Trump admin has rolled back: https://www.environmentalintegrity.o...ory-rollbacks/ |
11-03-18, 11:55 AM | #5745 |
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I definitely won't be "ok" with it, although I suspect that most Republican elected officials are secretly rooting for that very thing. All the good accomplished in just two years by Trump must be undone, or those low energy Republicans look like they've been screwing us for all these years. They'll try to blame it on the Democrats, but we'll know better.
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