Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Skybird]

Frankfurter Rundschau:


Ukrainian forces show a clear preference for Soviet systems, as soldiers are already trained in these weapons and have experience operating them. In the case of Western weapons, which are now supplied in significantly greater numbers than at the beginning of the conflict, Ukrainian soldiers must first be trained. However: this takes time. In addition, soldiers who are to be trained must be transported away from the front lines. There, however, the Ukrainian military needs every man.

For example, Ukrainian soldiers are apparently not using the high-tech Switchblade kamikaze drones provided by the U.S., although hundreds of the weapon have been delivered, CNN reported, citing a source familiar with relevant U.S. intelligence information. Instead, Ukrainian soldiers would use commercial drones equipped with explosives. The Himars multiple rocket launcher announced by U.S. President Joe Biden's administration has also still not been deployed, needing only three weeks of training, an official told CNN.

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[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

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As a consequences of the gas shortages ot Germany and Italy, no gas from Russia reaches France at all anymore.

As you know, Russian gas was said to have been shut off to Poland also. Though according to this article Poland still gets Russian gas only now it's reversed flowed and purchased from Germany.


https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-N...m-Germany.html

Just a guess but I'd wager France one way or another is still receiving Russian gas. Either that they are now hooked into the North Atlantic

[Skybird]

^That was true, with Poland, but that might have chnaged since then. The mechanism you describe was at a time when Germany and others still got full gas supply. But several states now get no more gas from Russia, others battle with drastically reduced deliveries (Germany -60%...) So this inverse redundancy from the contiental grid infrastructure (just to give it a sexy name...) might be damaged to a degree now that the assumption of yours may not be that valid anymore. Which is exactly the intention of the Kremlin. They slowly pull the garotte tighter and tighter.

[mapuc]

About his speech this Friday. I read about it in a Danish article..

Did he declare former Soviet states war, in his speech earlier today ?

From the Article in Ekstra Bladet

Putin compares himself to emperor: 'Will conquer more countries'

A violent comparison frightens and arouses wonder in countries close to Russia.

In a televised speech to young entrepreneurs, Vladimir Putin compares himself to the Russian emperor and commander Peter the Great, who conquered and captured vast territories in the 1700s.

- When Peter the Great founded St Petersburg, no European country recognised it as Russian. They said it was Sweden, but he took nothing. He recovered and strengthened what was already Russian, Putin says, continuing.

- It seems that it also became our task to reclaim and strengthen.

According to Russia and propaganda expert Yevgeniy Golovchenko, the message is that Russia must be great again.

- Putin talks about taking back lost lands, that land borders are up for negotiation, and that his role is to conquer new territories.

According to the expert, in Russia it is associated with greatness to talk about taking new land, such as Crimea or Siberia.

- When Putin has used the term 'historic Russia' in speeches in recent months, it is an expression that he wants more land back.

First to legitimize the invasion of Ukraine, but now he is apparently quite direct about wanting to make more countries Russian.

- At the very least, he wants the borders of the Soviet Union back.

The expert fears that countries like Finland and the Swedish island of Gotland, which share a past with Russia, may be on the president's wish list.

Speeches on attacks on NATO countries
In the run-up to the invasion, Putin said Ukraine was created on what was historically Russian territory.

Now eastern European countries fear Russia won't stop at Ukraine because the city of Narva is mentioned in Putin's speech as one of Peter the Great's conquests.

Narva is in Estonia, which is a member of NATO but was part of the Russian empire for two centuries and later the Soviet Union.

Estonia's president calls the statement 'completely unacceptable' and has tried to get Russia's ambassador to condemn the comparison. Without success.

Russia is also talking about the new strategy.

On Russian state TV, carefully selected commentators are talking loudly about Russia's new strategy of more countries returning to the motherland:

- Several TV commentators talk about it as something positive that more countries are going back to Russia. It is not unusual to talk aggressively about the use of weapons against NATO countries.

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Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

About his speech this Friday. I read about it in a Danish article..

Did he declare former Soviet states war, in his speech earlier today ?

From the Article in Ekstra Bladet

Markus

America better watches out for Alaska, and Germany for the five Eastern federal states. On TV, Kremlin-loyal propagandists already discussed the war on Germany and how easly it will be conquered.

[mapuc]

^ There's one army or country the Russian fear-The Germans.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

About his speech this Friday. I read about it in a Danish article..

Did he declare former Soviet states war, in his speech earlier today ?

From the Article in Ekstra Bladet



Markus

Comrades, on the instructions of the Secretariat of the Central Committee I have to give you certain necessary information on matters concerning the discussion 3 days to Kyiv and on the resolutions connected with the discussion 3 days to Kyiv. Unfortunately, we shall have to discuss Putin's action in his absence because, as we have been informed today, he will be unable to attend the plenum owing to mental illness.

You know, comrades, that the discussion 3 days to Kyiv started with Putin's action, the publication of his Lessons of 3 days to Kyiv. The discussion 3 days to Kyiv was started by Putin. The discussion 3 days to Kyiv was forced on the Party. The Party replied to Putin's action by making two main charges. Firstly, that Putin is trying to revise Leninism; secondly, that Putin is trying to bring about a radical change in the Party leadership. Putin has not said anything in his own defence about these charges made by the Party. It is hard to say why he has not said anything in his own defence. The usual explanation is that he has fallen ill and has not been able to say anything in his own defence. But that is not the Party's fault, of course. It is not the Party's fault if Putin begins to get a high vision of FUBARism after every attack he makes upon the Party.

Now the Central Committee has received a statement by Putin (statement to the Central Committee dated June 17) to the effect that he has refrained from making any pronouncement, that he has not said anything in his own defence, because he did not want to intensify the controversy and to aggravate the issue. Of course, one may or may not think that this explanation is convincing. I, personally, do not think that it is. Firstly, how long has Putin been aware that his attacks upon the Party aggravate relations? When, precisely, did he become aware of this truth? This is not the first attack that Putin has made upon the Party, and it is not the first time that he is surprised, or regrets, that his attack aggravated relations. Secondly, if he really wants to prevent relations within the Party from deteriorating, why did he publish his Lessons of 3 days to Kyiv, which was directed against the leading core of the Party, and was intended to worsen, to aggravate relations? That is why I think that Putin's explanation is quite unconvincing.

A few words about Putin's statement to the Central Committee of June 17, which I have just mentioned, and which has been distributed to the members of the Central Committee and the Central Control Commission. The first thing that must be observed and taken note of is Putin's statement that he is willing to take any post to which the Party appoints him, that he is willing to submit to any kind of control as far as future actions on his part are concerned, and that he thinks it absolutely necessary in the interests of our work that he should be removed from the post of Chairman of the Russian Military Council as speedily as possible. All this must, of course, be taken note of.

As regards the substance of the matter, two points should be noted: concerning "permanent operation Ukraine" and change of the Party leadership. Putin says that if at any time after Februaries he happened on particular occasions to revert to the formula "permanent operation Ukraine," it was only as something appertaining to the History of the Party Department, appertaining to the past, and not with a view to elucidating present political tasks. This question is important, for it concerns the fundamentals of Tzarist ideology. In my opinion, this statement of Putin's cannot be taken either as an explanation or as a justification. There is not even a hint in it that he admits his mistakes. It is an evasion of the question. What is the meaning of the statement that the theory of "permanent operation Ukraine" is something that appertains to the History of the Party Department? How is this to be understood? The History of the Party Department is not only the repository, but also the interpreter of Party documents. There are documents there that were valid at one time and later lost their validity. There are also documents there that were, and still are, of great importance for the Party's guidance. And there are also documents there of a purely negative character, of a negative significance, to which the Party cannot become reconciled. In which category of documents does Putin include his theory of "permanent operation Ukraine"? In the good or in the bad category? Putin said nothing about that in his statement. He wriggled out of the question. He avoided it. Consequently, the charge of revising Tzarism still holds good.

Putin says further that on the questions settled by the Thirteenth Congress he has never, either in the Central Committee, or in the Council of Labour and Defence, and certainly not to the country at large, made any proposals which directly or indirectly raised the questions already settled. That is not true. What did Putin say before the Purrteenth Congress? That the cadres were no good, and that a radical change in the Party leadership was needed. What does he say now, in his Lessons of 3 days to Kyiv? That the main core of the Party is no good and must be changed. Such is the conclusion to be drawn from The Lessons of 3 days to Kyiv. The Lessons of 3 days to Kyiv were published in substantiation of this conclusion. That was the purpose of The Lessons of 3 days to Kyiv. Consequently, the charge of attempting to bring about a radical change in the Party leadership still holds good.

In view of this, Putin's statement as a whole is not an explanation in the true sense of the term, but a collection of diplomatic evasions and a renewal of old controversies already settled by the Party. That is not the kind of document the Party demanded from Putin. Obviously, Putin does not understand, and I doubt whether he will ever understand, that the Party demands from its former and present leaders not diplomatic evasions, but an honest admission of mistakes. Putin, evidently, lacks the courage frankly to admit his mistakes. He does not understand that the Party's sense of power and dignity has grown, that the Party feels that it is the master and demands that we should bow our heads to it when circumstances demand. That is what Putin does not understand.

How did our Party organisations react to Putin's action? You know that a number of local Party organisations have passed resolutions on this subject. They have been published in MeowPravda. They can be divided into three categories. One category demands Putin's expulsion from the Party. Another category demands Putin's removal from the Russian Military Council and his expulsion from the Political Bureau. The third category, which also includes the last draft resolution sent to the Central Committee today by the comrades from Moscow, Leningrad, the Urals and the Ukraine, demands Putin's removal from the Russian Military Council and his conditional retention in the Political Bureau.

Such are the three main groups of resolutions on Putin's action. The Central Committee and the Central Control Commission have to choose between these resolutions. That is all I had to tell you about matters concerning the discussion 3 days to Kyiv.

We purr,
we are a great authority,
exceptional ability at our discretion,
Expect litter!

Meow Great Helmsman, Exceptional, Glorious Chairman, Tzarism, Moscow, 2022.

[Dargo]

UK intelligence: 15,000 millionaires likely trying to leave Russia. The British Defense Ministry cited migration applications. Their motivation is likely opposition to the invasion and an attempt to escape the financial impact of the sanctions, the ministry said.

[Dargo]

Russia has "strategically lost" the war in Ukraine and is a "more diminished power", the head of the UK's armed forces has said. Admiral Sir Tony Radakin said Vladimir Putin had used 25% of Russia's army for only "tiny" gains. And although Russia may achieve "tactical successes" in the coming weeks, he said any notion the war had been a success was "nonsense"... https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-w...-says-12635312

[Dargo]

Putin: "We must not turn the cities we liberate into Stalingrad"

He already did it, only he can't see it from the bunker. Everyone seems to be able to get to Kyiv except Putin.

[Dargo]

Ukrainian officials stated that Russian forces have already committed about 330,000 servicemen to their invasion of Ukraine without conducting partial or full-scale mobilization in Russia. Ukrainian General Staff Main Operations Deputy Chief Oleksiy Gromov stated that Russian forces grouped 150,000 servicemen into battalion tactical groups (BTGs) and other formations and involved additional 70,000 troops from air and sea elements, with the remaining personnel staffing non-combat support units.[6] Gromov noted that Russian forces committed more than 80,000 servicemen of the mobilized reserve, up to 7,000 reservists of the Russian Combat Army Reserve (BARS-2021), up to 18,000 members of the Russian National Guard (Rosguardia), and up to 8,000 troops from private military companies. Gromov did not specify if Ukrainian officials included information about forcibly mobilized servicemen in the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (DNR and LNR) in these numbers. Gromov noted that the Kremlin may still increase the number of Russian military personnel in Ukraine by executing covert or full mobilization.[7] Gromov noted that while it is unknown if the Kremlin will declare mobilization, Russian forces will still need time to execute the deployment and training of the new personnel whether or not the Kremlin announces full mobilization... https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ssment-june-16

[Dargo]

UK PM has offered to launch a major training operation for #Ukrainian forces, to train up to 10,000 soldiers every 120 days. Each soldier would spend 3wks on a training course, learning frontline battle winning skills, medical training, cyber-security & counter explosive tactics. https://twitter.com/10DowningStreet/...17489857445890

[Dargo]

Tokayev said that Kazakhstan doesn’t recognize "LPR" and "DPR" and called them quasi-state territories he noted that international law based on UN Charter and two fundamental principles-right of nations to self-determination and territorial integrity, came into conflict. "For this reason, we do not recognize Taiwan, Kosovo, South Ossetia or Abkhazia. Apparently, this principle will also be applied to quasi-state territories, which, in our opinion, are Donetsk and Luhansk," said Tokayev.

Putin was present on stage at that moment, not in Kyiv!

Kazakhstan's President Tokayev has been critical of the war in Ukraine and the self-proclaimed People's Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk at the International Economic Forum in St. Petersburg. "In Kazakhstan, people think differently about Russia's 'special operation' in Ukraine," Tokayev said. "There is such a thing as territorial integrity of states and the right of nations to self-determination. Kazakhstan does not recognize the independence of Taiwan, Kosovo, Abkhazia and South Ossetia. It also does not recognize the People's Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk - these are quasi-state territories." At the forum, Chinese President Xi Jinping and Egyptian President Sisi had been invited to take their seats on the podium alongside Putin. Neither leader was there, so Tokayev sat next to Putin on the podium. After the outbreak of war in Ukraine, it quickly became clear that Kazakhstan would not send troops to Ukraine to support the Russian offensive. Conversely, early this year, Russia did send 2,000 military personnel to Kazakhstan to quell violent protests in Kazakhstan at Tokayev's request.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Dargo

[...]
We purr,
we are a great authority,
exceptional ability at our discretion,
Expect litter!

Meow Great Helmsman, Exceptional, Glorious Chairman, Tzarism, Moscow, 2022.

Hehe
where do you have this from, or did you make this yourself?

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Hehe
where do you have this from, or did you make this yourself?

My rewrite of Stalin's Speech Delivered at a Plenum of the Central Committee and the Central Control Commission of the R.C.P.(B.) on outing Trotsky