The Revelation of Greta: no heavens behind the heavens

[STEED]

I am wondering how much what she said was her words and what was given to her by who.

Sorting out enviroment issues is one thing taking on capitalism is another. Yes she is blunt but is she being manipulated by others to push their agenda.

[mapuc]

You know what

I have my own theory on this climate change

However I have absolutely no evidence except all these science program I have seen throughout the years which have made me come up with this theory of my own.

Markus

[STEED]

I know one thing ripping up capitalism will not solve the problem.

[Buddahaid]

Sure it will, just look at how clean and void of any environmental disaster the socialist countries have been.....

The thing this idiot fails to see is people just gravitate toward the easiest way to do anything regardless of what social class, or government, they belong to. When you're starving you do anything it takes.

[Catfish]

Ripping up capitalism will not solve the problem, right. Not that i think that anyone could or wanted, for that matter.
Also hard to tackle her since she is not a typical politician.

Imho she is no hypocrite since she honestly believes what she says, right or wrong. I really think she herself has this opinion, no need to put words into her by parents or teachers. She is just too young not to pose questions she thinks are vital, instead of resigning and giving up.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Imho she is no hypocrite since she honestly believes what she says, right or wrong. I really think she herself has this opinion, no need to put words into her by parents or teachers.

Who do you think "put" this opinion in her head? Education has been captured by the left.

[u crank]

The Tragedy Of Greta Thunberg

Sixteen-year-old Swedish climate change activist Greta Thunberg lives in the healthiest, wealthiest, safest, and most peaceful era humans have ever known. She is one of the luckiest people to have ever lived.

In a just world, Thunberg would be at the United Nations thanking capitalist countries for bequeathing her this remarkable inheritance. Instead, she, like millions of other indoctrinated kids her age, act as if they live in a uniquely broken world on the precipice of disaster. This is a tragedy.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/23...reta-thunberg/

And Thunberg’s dream for the future means technocratic regimes will have to displace capitalistic societies. We can see this future in the radical environmentalist plans of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s New Green Deal, one supported by leading Democratic Party candidates. It’s authoritarianism. There is no other way to describe a regulatory regime that dictates exactly what Americans can consume, sell, drive, eat, and work on.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Ripping up capitalism will not solve the problem, right. Not that i think that anyone could or wanted, for that matter.
Also hard to tackle her since she is not a typical politician.

Imho she is no hypocrite since she honestly believes what she says, right or wrong. I really think she herself has this opinion, no need to put words into her by parents or teachers. She is just too young not to pose questions she thinks are vital, instead of resigning and giving up.

Could well be the case but either way it is a hard one to call.

[JU_88]

Yeah its to safe to say Greta is genuine in what she believes (or has been led to believe). Either way, she doesn't speak on behalf of the youth, she speaks on behalf of environmental activists.

I can see her getting nominated for Nobel peace prize and getting a lot of love from the progressives crowd for a while, but after that she will be forgotten.

Making a raw emotional speech is high risk as it is, but anger a despair doesn't usually resonate well. To get people on you side, you have to get them to like or sympathies with you on some level. And you cant do that if you only give off negative vibes with a pinched psycho face and a few tears.

Though Greta is not too far from adulthood.
I have low regard for anyone who uses /manipulates a child to push an ideology or agenda. Its a dick move, and becoming ever more common.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Yeah its to safe to say Greta is genuine in what she believes (or has been led to believe). Either way, she doesn't speak on behalf of the youth, she speaks on behalf of environmental activists.

I can see her getting nominated for Nobel peace prize and getting a lot of love from the progressives crowd for a while, but after that she will be forgotten.

Making a raw emotional speech is high risk as it is, but anger a despair doesn't usually resonate well. To get people on you side, you have to get them to like or sympathies with you on some level. And you cant do that if you only give off negative vibes with a pinched psycho face and a few tears.

I take into account her medical condition but as JU pointed out her speech will not go down that well. Did she write it all or some one else or her speech with edited by someone. I suspect the pressure of the posted girl will get to her sooner or later.

[Jimbuna]

One retort of a great many I suspect.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Ripping up capitalism will not solve the problem, right. Not that i think that anyone could or wanted, for that matter.
Also hard to tackle her since she is not a typical politician.

Imho she is no hypocrite since she honestly believes what she says, right or wrong. I really think she herself has this opinion, no need to put words into her by parents or teachers. She is just too young not to pose questions she thinks are vital, instead of resigning and giving up.

I would point out that if you criticise, you would be attacked for doing so, with allegations of being biggoted against disabled/young/female people, being a heretic for not subscribing to the most radical climate change related beliefs possible, even if you only criticised her statements, not her character or person and made a reasoned, sourced argument.

[Catfish]

^ True.
On the other side there a lot of people already despising or looking down upon challenged persons (for the lack of a better word) by pure gut feeling, and are searching for arguments that sound reasonable (to serve their already existing point of view).

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Yeah its to safe to say Greta is genuine in what she believes (or has been led to believe). Either way, she doesn't speak on behalf of the youth,

Hmm i think some billion kids demonstrating seem to support what she says, so she at least speaks for some on their behalf.

[...] she speaks on behalf of environmental activists.

May well be, though i would not completely deny her having some own thoughts.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Yeah its to safe to say Greta is genuine in what she believes (or has been led to believe). Either way, she doesn't speak on behalf of the youth, she speaks on behalf of environmental activists.

I can see her getting nominated for Nobel peace prize and getting a lot of love from the progressives crowd for a while, but after that she will be forgotten.

Making a raw emotional speech is high risk as it is, but anger a despair doesn't usually resonate well. To get people on you side, you have to get them to like or sympathies with you on some level. And you cant do that if you only give off negative vibes with a pinched psycho face and a few tears.

Though Greta is not too far from adulthood.
I have low regard for anyone who uses /manipulates a child to push an ideology or agenda. Its a dick move, and becoming ever more common.

Nobody dares to mention something that should be obvious: that an autistic personality tends to paint things black and white, 1 and 0, and by that easiyl can entangle itself and trap itself in conflicts with others as well as conflicts between perfecitonism and idela on the one side, and reality and pragmatism on the other side.
It takes an autist long time, man years of riping in the adult world to overocme this trap and to learn how to live his life without leaving a smoking battlefield behind him at every day's sunset.



That they make an autistic, infantile child with - by consequences of the first - quite pedantic, totalitarian, tyrannic mindset an icon of light and global salvation, tells more about the stupdity of people, than about Holy Greta the Messiah's Sista.