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Old 05-04-17, 06:59 AM   #31
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Macron is clearly going to win as Le Pen's background is good solid mud to sling back in her face. That said Le Pen is in this for the long haul.
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Old 05-04-17, 07:06 AM   #32
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It would appear (should one believe some press sources) that there are currently sufficient undecided voters to swing it her way.
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Old 05-04-17, 07:23 AM   #33
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Officially she shut her father up for his antisemitism and holocaust denial, but all say she did it to get the party's top job. She believes in her father's propaganda, she just does not dare to openly say it – yet. Her party's fellow members are not so shy.
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latest poll is still Macron 60, Le Pen 40.

http://www.parismatch.com/La-preside...-en-temps-reel

only 3 days left, I don't see how she can close the gap.
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Old 05-04-17, 10:21 AM   #35
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Never say never.
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not ready for prime time?

one thing I have to hand the french is their debates, almost 3 hours, next to no moderation.

The Hollande-Sarkozy debate in 2012 was epic.
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^ According the news here Macron went to the attorney to fill an accusation against Le Pen for what she said in yesterday's debate about
She claimed Macron have a secret account in the Bahamas

I hope she have the prof.

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I think people got a bit over excited post Trump and BREXIT regarding the new right.
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Just the latest chapter in the latest political circus ring.
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Guess France is going to be the first country in Europe to become Islamic. Maybe everyone else can stop accepting enemies into their respective countries now, and let them all go to France instead?
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Macron 65-Le Pen 34

Blowout!

However, it may be a short lived triumph, Macron has no political party and on french TV, representatives of all parties are already pivoting to the june parliamentary elections.

p.s. trivia - Macron is the youngest Head of State since Napoleon in 1799.
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Old 05-07-17, 04:20 PM   #42
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As if we did not see that one, Macron wins....
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I wonder if the conspiracy theorist are going extra crazy today.
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No real surprise in the outcome I suppose but I was seriously surprised and almost shocked to learn of Le Pens parties alleged connections and support with the Vichy government.
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So Macron got 65 percent, this is a clear sign. Guess a lot of people in France are p.. off by the latest hate and racist shouting and recent international conduct, and with Trump and brexit happening. But concerned to see that obviously a lot of Brits regard the term "European" as an abuse.
I just hope Macron delivers and triggers a real change for France, otherwise France and us have LePen in five years. Make no mistake, more than a third of voters have preferred a far-right and racist candidate, commanding a party that more or less openly denies the holocaust, is by definition anti-democratic and anti-european

What is good is that Macron will meet Merkel at eye-level, and is obviously eager to fight, also for a change in the EU. I wish him and France (and all of us in the EU) the very best!

@Ikalugin regarding conspiracy theories, even Trump has accepted the outcome of the french election, probably grinding his teeth. Putin will not be so pleased either i think..
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