And yet gasoline prices rise

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

And nobody will do anything about it except bend over and take it.

Well short term wise there really is not anything that people can do except perhaps become much more fuel efficient.Even if many people where to do so I dont think it would make much difference we have been relying on oil for so long now is it 100% our life blood.Until just the last few years except for the two 70's oil embargoes oil being in short supply or actually being a finite resource has not been on many peoples minds and many people refuse to believe that there is a limited amount of oil left.

There are so many products beyond just fuel that rely on fossil fuels it is mind blowing,plastics, pharmaceuticals, fertilizers,many other chemicals all these things will need to be re-engineered to use different resources.Right now our entire modern world relies on oil.The big question is will we be able to come up with the many effective alternatives in time before oil runs out?I think we will be in real trouble to be honest we should have begun the research into this years ago the early 70's embargoes should have gotten the ball rolling much more than it did.

What really got me thinking about how limited our fossil fuel life blood is was after having joined the Air Force and seeing first hand all the activity that occurs most of it requiring a good amount of fossil fuel.I got to thinking just in one day all the military aircraft and all the civilian aircraft coming and going each day all the cars and trucks coming and going around the world it really made me realize that at some point there was not going to be enough oil to go around for everyone and sooner or later for anyone (unless your Mad Max and it wound up being sand in that tanker.)

The powers that be want to squeeze every last drop of profit from oil.I personally think that they really do have a rough idea how much oil is left and feasible to get to and they will just sit back and reap the benefits of everyone paying more and more for as time goes by.

[Hanomag]

Well maybe we will get EMP'd or hit with an asteroid and then there will be no need for fuel or electricity...

Till that happens its a big sh**t sandwich ... so dig in!!! MMMM MM Good!!

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by TorpX

I really doubt that speculation is a big factor.

Ignore the evidence and empirical data all you like, then.

Originally Posted by jimbuna

UK Petrol Prices for Thursday 1st March 2012

.................................Avg.............. ...........Min.................................Max

Unleaded................137.44p................... ...130.9p.........................149.9p
Diesel.....................144.67p................ .....137.9p.........................155.9p
SuperUnleaded.......144.95p......................1 34.9p..........................159.9p
Premium Diesel......152.58p.......................143.9p.. .......................160.9p
LPG.........................75.72p................ .........66.9p...........................84.9p

Sheeshk, jim. If my math is correct, 137.44p per litre is $8.26 a gallon here. Down the street from me, it's going for $3.49 a gallon...I guess that makes it 92p

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Hanomag

Well maybe we will get EMP'd or hit with an asteroid and then there will be no need for fuel or electricity...

Till that happens its a big sh**t sandwich ... so dig in!!! MMMM MM Good!!

Not too worried about an EMP or asteroid really.The only EMP that could wipe out the entire worlds power grid can only come form the sun and such events are exceedingly rare and the next known "close call" from an asteroid is not until 2029 ans that one should only come between earth and our farther out satellites.Fossil fuel getting low and then running out is an event that is 100% going to happen the ramifications of we actually can have a control over if we choose to do so.Of course it seems to be human nature for some reason to ignore the most obvious danger sometimes.

Why eat a sheeeet sandwich when you do not have to?At the same time mother nature tends to handle things from time to time and I dont mean to sound inhumane but there are far too many humans on earth for the planet to sustain us all so something is going to come along and reduce our numbers and that is unavoidable and it seems bad if you are the one to die from some pandemic but in the end that is natures way keeping things in check.

[Harald_Lange]

Try running at ahead one-third, save bags of fuel that way!

[jumpy]

Considering the price of petrol and diesel here in the UK, all of you over the pond can shut the hell up about how much 'gas' costs

[STEED]

Originally Posted by jumpy

Considering the price of petrol and diesel here in the UK, all of you over the pond can shut the hell up about how much 'gas' costs

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by jumpy

Considering the price of petrol and diesel here in the UK, all of you over the pond can shut the hell up about how much 'gas' costs

Only if your daily commute looks something like this. If you don't have the commute to match, then you can kindly shut yer yap.

[STEED]

The gas...sorry petrol war has started.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Not too worried about an EMP or asteroid really.The only EMP that could wipe out the entire worlds power grid can only come form the sun and such events are exceedingly rare and the next known "close call" from an asteroid is not until 2029 ans that one should only come between earth and our farther out satellites.Fossil fuel getting low and then running out is an event that is 100% going to happen the ramifications of we actually can have a control over if we choose to do so.Of course it seems to be human nature for some reason to ignore the most obvious danger sometimes.

Why eat a sheeeet sandwich when you do not have to?At the same time mother nature tends to handle things from time to time and I dont mean to sound inhumane but there are far too many humans on earth for the planet to sustain us all so something is going to come along and reduce our numbers and that is unavoidable and it seems bad if you are the one to die from some pandemic but in the end that is natures way keeping things in check.

Have a read of 'One Second After'.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Ignore the evidence and empirical data all you like, then.



Sheeshk, jim. If my math is correct, 137.44p per litre is $8.26 a gallon here. Down the street from me, it's going for $3.49 a gallon...I guess that makes it 92p

Your there abouts Mark, I make it a little bit more but your probably working it out in US gallons and IIRC the UK gallon is a larger measure.

I remember when we met in 08 and the popular talk at the time was the fact gas/petrol had hit the $3 point.

[jumpy]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Only if your daily commute looks something like this. If you don't have the commute to match, then you can kindly shut yer yap.

lol
Well, I've had one or two jobs with that kind of commute mileage here in the UK. Hell, some of our contracts managers used to do almost a hundred miles each way to head office 4 days a week.
You chaps don't have a monopoly on the work commute you know. Tbh, if you have to travel more than 90 minutes each way, you should move or get a better job.

Having said all of that, if you work an office job, commuting is so last century... it's only jobsworth managers who are determined to prolong the stoneage; when everyone has decent internet connections, why can't I do my job from home any less efficiently than in an office that I have to spend almost an hour to get to each morning, burning precious time alive that I will never have refunded, not to mention the fuel to et there... instead of starting early because my computer is only in the next room at home?
Something is seriously wrong with the business model imo.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Hanomag

Till that happens its a big sh**t sandwich ... so dig in!!! MMMM MM Good!!

Please reread the forum rules on language.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq...._item_language

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Only if your daily commute looks something like this. If you don't have the commute to match, then you can kindly shut yer yap.

My dad's usual commute http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Vi...ra=ltm&t=m&z=8

[Jimbuna]

Looks like the same route Ducimus posted