U-571 - Page 3

nikimcbee · 07-17-10, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

"Everything's in GERMAN!"

That's the best line in the whole movie!

storm-petrel · 07-17-10, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

In reality, the submarine U-571 was never actually captured. The submarines U-559 and U-110 were the ones captured with the codebooks but by the British Navy in August 1941, four months before the United States entered the war. U-570 however was in fact a u-boat captured in late 1941 (by Britain) near Iceland, and subsequently deployed as HMS Graph until early 1944. Its appearance was used by the Royal Navy to fool German ships and submarines, and destroy them by surprise.

HMS Bulldog took the first enigma machine from a U-boat (U-110).

http://www.iwm.org.uk/upload/package...a/enigma12.htm

Well thanks for that Jim

. Many years ago a documentary was broadcast in UK about the capture of the Kriegsmarine enigma....I cannot remember the title of it, or even which channel it was shown on.

It is from this documentary that I thought the RCN had a hand in it, so my memory ( like this 'puter of mine ) needs an upgrade.

Pretty certain however that same programme told of how, before the U-boat was being boarded, the sailor/officer who was supposed to throw the vitally important codebook into the ocean, went and saved a pile of love-letters or poems he had composed about his sweetheart back in Deutschland.

Sweet.....but ultimately it changed the course of the war.

Jimbuna · 07-18-10, 08:17 AM

Your welcome matey

Redbear · 07-18-10, 09:11 AM

It's no Das Boot, that's for sure, but I do like one exchange early in the movie between the captain and the assault team leader. It goes something like this:

To the captain: 'How deep will she go?'

Captain: 'Oh, she'll go all the way to the bottom if we don't stop her."

Words to sail by!

sergei · 07-18-10, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Redbear

To the captain: 'How deep will she go?'
Captain: 'Oh, she'll go all the way to the bottom if we don't stop her."

Top line

Sgt_Raa · 07-18-10, 11:06 AM

if somebody can find that docco id love to see it as im sure we all would!..
we could probably learn quite a lot
i never knew the british captured a uboat and redeployed it¿... great idea

Sgt_Raa · 07-18-10, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by storm-petrel

Pretty certain however that same programme told of how, before the U-boat was being boarded, the sailor/officer who was supposed to throw the vitally important codebook into the ocean, went and saved a pile of love-letters or poems he had composed about his sweetheart back in Deutschland.

Sweet.....but ultimately it changed the course of the war.

kinda puts a human face on war!... im sure the Uboat crews didnt want to be there either

storm-petrel · 07-18-10, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sgt_Raa

kinda puts a human face on war!... im sure the Uboat crews didnt want to be there either

I know a submarine would be my last choice to serve in, not sure if they had any say in the matter though

HW3 · 07-18-10, 09:22 PM

The Ubootwaffe was an all volunteer force so, yes they had a say in it.

frau kaleun · 07-18-10, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HW3

The Ubootwaffe was an all volunteer force so, yes they had a say in it.

It was certainly touted by many as an "all volunteer" force, but I'm not sure that's strictly accurate, especially as the war went on and more and more lost crews had to be replaced. Probably more so pre-war and when hostilities began.

sergei · 07-19-10, 01:58 AM

That's right. It was all volunteer pre war, and in the early years.
As the war dragged on and losses mounted this was increasingly not the case.

flakmonkey · 07-19-10, 06:08 AM

In the movie`s defense, it did have the best uboat interior sets in any sub movie, made by the same folks that did das boot.... the rest was garbage though.

Jimbuna · 07-19-10, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sgt_Raa

i never knew the british captured a uboat and redeployed it¿... great idea

http://www.oca.269squadron.btinterne...u570-story.htm

Sgt_Raa · 07-19-10, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

http://www.oca.269squadron.btinterne...u570-story.htm

thans man mad link

great story.. id like to learn more about the other captured uboats

Sailor Steve · 07-19-10, 10:10 AM

Here is more on U-570, including the British and US examinations.
http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-570.htm

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flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	In the movie`s defense, it did have the best uboat interior sets in any sub movie, made by the same folks that did das boot.... the rest was garbage though. __________________

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Here is more on U-570, including the British and US examinations. http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-570.htm __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-18-10, 09:11 AM	#34
Redbear Engineer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 208 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	It's no Das Boot, that's for sure, but I do like one exchange early in the movie between the captain and the assault team leader. It goes something like this: To the captain: 'How deep will she go?' Captain: 'Oh, she'll go all the way to the bottom if we don't stop her." Words to sail by!

07-19-10, 01:58 AM	#41
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	That's right. It was all volunteer pre war, and in the early years. As the war dragged on and losses mounted this was increasingly not the case.