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Old 11-22-09, 02:33 PM   #31
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A 3.0 GHz processor is stretching it a bit. If that is indeed the bar-none medium. Most computers still run on 2.4 to 2.8 GHz processors; 3.0 ones are almost always the incredibly expensive ones which have been overclocked- otherwise they're just incredibly expensive quad cores lol.
But you are forgetting something. Its 3.0ghz to run SH5 in a single-core cpu. If you have multi-core cpu, any frequency will do.
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Old 11-22-09, 04:07 PM   #32
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But you are forgetting something. Its 3.0ghz to run SH5 in a single-core cpu. If you have multi-core cpu, any frequency will do.
But you are forgetting something. The application must use multicores.
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Old 12-05-09, 05:47 PM   #33
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hi

after seeing the new video i know a new card is needed ...

i wonder will this card run sh5 ok?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159579

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Inno3D 9400GT 1GB DDR2


any help would be great

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Old 12-05-09, 06:01 PM   #34
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hi

after seeing the new video i know a new card is needed ...

i wonder will this card run sh5 ok?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159579

its a ..
Inno3D 9400GT 1GB DDR2


any help would be great

cjb
i would never suggest you buy that card, for just a little more money you can get a much better 9800 card, i would take a 512mb 9800 card over a 1gb 9400, 9500, or 9600 card any day.


here is a reply i gave a guy who just bought a new computer and the guy who built it for him used the 9500 card

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i wasnt saying or trying to imply that you need to or should go buy a new card. (only time will tell if it has issues running sh5 but i hope your ok there)

i only wanted you to better understand how your system builder guy (while he probably thought he was recommending a good card) didnt give you the best recommendation or choice on the card to use.

it was probably a misscommunication where the guy didnt realise there was such a big difference from the 9500 to the 9800 or maybe he just thought that you wouldnt be playing any games that needed a very good card.

depending on the individual the system builder may not "always" know the best hardware to use and sometimes they just use one or two setups that they know work well or they are able to get good deals on and they might make just one or two changes to customise it to fit the customers needs better.

chances are he might have been putting 9500 cards in all his computers unless the customer requests a better card or he just never felt you needed a better card then that.

all the 9000 series cards are just renamed 8000 series cards with more ram added to them so a 9500 is just the 8500 with a new name and more ram added.

to better see where your card stacks up, look at what came after it. here they are in the order they came out, after the 7000 series cards nvidia came out with the 8400 then the 8500, 8600, 8800, then the 9000 series came out but nothing was changed except that they added extra ram to the cards and changed the numbers and released the 9400 (a renamed 8400 with more ram), 9500 (a renamed 8500 with more ram), 9600 (a renamed 8600 with more ram), 9800 (a renamed 8800 with more ram), and then you have the 200 series cards after that which are the first really "new" cards after the 8000 series came out.

the lesson here is even when you turn things over to someone else you think is an expert, you should take the setup they recommend and get second and third opinions to see if you are better off making a few changes before you just go with what they recommend. after all hes just giving you a recommendation so swapping a few things around is no big deal and if there is some reason you shouldnt change something they will let you know why.
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Old 12-05-09, 07:02 PM   #35
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A few months ago my good old 8800 UTLRA burned up at 120 degrees (Riva Tuner was off because of bloody Vista during a 40 degree summer day). I decided to stop eating for about a month and get an EVGA GTX275 for about 200 euros at that time. I've yet to lower my settings in ANY game and I hope that SH5 won't be any different. And I play at 1920x1200 (without AA since it's useless at that res, but with full AF). I never check the markets for new cards unless I buy a new PC or vista decides to stop my riva tuner service . Maybe there's something better out there for this buck, but these were my 2 cents
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Old 12-05-09, 07:17 PM   #36
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hi webster

thankyou for your help the cheapest 9800 i can find is 70 pounds...

i realise that the card i suggested isnt a power house but cash is a issue here so i guess i just take a risk and fingers crossed..

thank you for your advice though

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Old 12-05-09, 08:31 PM   #37
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hi webster

thankyou for your help the cheapest 9800 i can find is 70 pounds...

i realise that the card i suggested isnt a power house but cash is a issue here so i guess i just take a risk and fingers crossed..

thank you for your advice though

well i wish you luck but i think you might have issues trying to run sh5 on a 9400

i really really really wouldnt suggest you get less than a 9600 even if you have to get creative with your budget.

this is all just my opinion but i would think a 9500 would be the minimum you could run sh5 at normal settings with
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Old 12-05-09, 09:22 PM   #38
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hi webster

i found a...

Inno3D 9500GT 512MB DDR2

for roughly same price... so i might try that one instead...

perhaps you are thinking that sh5 needs more power than it actually do's

my card now is crappy yet just about runs hl2 maxed out

i hope 9500 is better than 9400 for same price just 500 less ram...


9500gt 512mb are any good?
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Old 12-05-09, 10:05 PM   #39
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wounder how this with a e 8400 3 ghz and one of the upcomeing 300 series cards.
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Old 12-05-09, 10:48 PM   #40
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hi webster

perhaps you are thinking that sh5 needs more power than it actually do's
one thing i learned with sh4 is that the specs they "claim" are good to run the game wont even let you play it on the lowest settings without the occassional CTD. sh4 makes crysis, HL2, and FEAR look like a lightweight games compared to the computer resources that you need to run them.

i am assuming ubi is not telling the truth again and whatever they claim you need is only half of what you will really will need. so when they said you "need" a 8800gt with 512mb video ram to run the game well on medium high settings, i assume that means that card will be the bare minimum you need to run the game at its lowest settings.

in your case you dont have the money to buy another card if this one doesnt run the game so i would say dont buy anything untill you know for sure. let others tell you if their cards run the game and then you will know what to buy.

you dont have money to waste and if you buy a card only to find sh5 runs like crap on it then your stuck with it. waiting is your best option to be sure you buy what you need to run the game.
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I think sh4s issue might have been in the engine/codeing... I understand if I had a S*** load of ai on the screen, and the like but out at sea with just the sea,and yer boat... you should be getting much higher FPS... I dont understant the HUGE fps drop I got from SH3 to SH4... I got well over 100FPS in but under between 70-25FPS in SH4...
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I think sh4s issue might have been in the engine/codeing... I understand if I had a S*** load of ai on the screen, and the like but out at sea with just the sea,and yer boat... you should be getting much higher FPS... I dont understant the HUGE fps drop I got from SH3 to SH4... I got well over 100FPS in but under between 70-25FPS in SH4...
i'm not real sure how it all works but i think its because it continues to generate everything everywhere even if your not seeing it so 90% of the stuff its generating and contriolling is for no practicle use to you untill it gets within your range so its running the whole world while you only need the area your in
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Old 12-06-09, 06:07 AM   #43
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So what?

Hi-end graphic is not central point of game, especially in simulation game.

So if ShVI came out and was 100% historically correct, and had all the real life weather patterns, moon phases etc..ect..but had the graphics of an Atari 1700, you would be OK with that?
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Old 12-06-09, 10:03 AM   #44
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ok thanks webster

btw is the Inno3D 9500GT 512MB DDR2 much faster than the 9400? i have read mixed reviews.. some saying its fantastic and some saying its crap...

i will restrain from now buying one and wait until you guys say how it runs on your systems..

i have 3 gig of ram

and athlon 64x2 4000+ whatever that is

i hope also once i get my card that will be enough..

now its a waiting game ! u guys better report quickly how your rigs handle sh5 !

thanks for your help if I'm honest i hope SH5 looks like the pics do on medium,Im happy to play it in medium settings as long as the actual simulation is up to scratch...medium will do me i hope as i think the bulk of us are after a the actual sim not eye candy

Cjb

ps.. as for halflife 2 i map with the source engine and i for one can tell you its very system heavy corridor based engine (even more so when bloom is used) .. as in i can run flight sim X nearly maxed out and i still struggle to do that with Halflife 2 on same system .... overhyped if anything i think the Source engine is but everyone seems to love it lol so shhhhhh be quiet

my mod if your interested using source engine:-

http://www.thegate.half-lifecreation...e2homepag.html

and on mod db - http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-gate-2

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Old 12-06-09, 12:18 PM   #45
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one thing i learned with sh4 is that the specs they "claim" are good to run the game wont even let you play it on the lowest settings without the occassional CTD. sh4 makes crysis, HL2, and FEAR look like a lightweight games compared to the computer resources that you need to run them.

i am assuming ubi is not telling the truth again and whatever they claim you need is only half of what you will really will need. so when they said you "need" a 8800gt with 512mb video ram to run the game well on medium high settings, i assume that means that card will be the bare minimum you need to run the game at its lowest settings.

in your case you dont have the money to buy another card if this one doesnt run the game so i would say dont buy anything untill you know for sure. let others tell you if their cards run the game and then you will know what to buy.

you dont have money to waste and if you buy a card only to find sh5 runs like crap on it then your stuck with it. waiting is your best option to be sure you buy what you need to run the game.
To be fair though, it's the devs that gave us the specs, not the suits. It's true that the minimum specs given for a game ussually yield a painfull experience, but if Dan&Co says you should get decent performance on a 8800GT, I trust them on that.

I've got a 8800GTS 512, and I'm not worried in the least. It runs the latest games perfectly fine, and it's just 1 "step" above a 8800/9800GT.

But yes, best to wait and see. Maybe I'm completely wrong and you're completely right.
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