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Old 10-02-09, 05:14 PM   #31
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Trivia question:

At one time the Olympics were supposed to be held in Chicago but weren't.

Why? and where were the Olympics held instead?
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Old 10-02-09, 05:14 PM   #32
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Old 10-02-09, 05:22 PM   #33
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Well, there are a lot of Chicago Olympics 2016 t-shirts going for 1/2 price.
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I guess this means that the IOC is a racist organization. They obviously want Obama to fail simply because he is black.
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Why are conservatives so happy that America doesn't get to host the Olympics? Rush and Beck could barely contain their joy. They just want to see Obama fail no matter what?

That is really, really petty.
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Old 10-02-09, 10:46 PM   #36
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Why are conservatives so happy that America doesn't get to host the Olympics? Rush and Beck could barely contain their joy. They just want to see Obama fail no matter what?

That is really, really petty.
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Old 10-02-09, 10:47 PM   #37
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Perhaps because Chicago is not a good spot for the Olympics and also because hosting the Olympics is often a very costly operation which ends up costing the taxpayers a lot of money?

Not everything is about Obama.
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Old 10-02-09, 11:07 PM   #38
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Why are conservatives so happy that America doesn't get to host the Olympics? Rush and Beck could barely contain their joy. They just want to see Obama fail no matter what?

That is really, really petty.
Well, I'm not happy about where the Olympics will be happening. I couldn't care less about any of that. Personally, I'm laughing about the whole matter because Obama's presidency (according to liberals last fall) was supposed to "restore" respect and admiration to the USA. And I knew that was utter BS. Obama apparently believed that BS as well as he carted off to Europe thinking his presence there would seal the deal, and he would return triumphantly with his Olympics trophy in hand for Chicago. And ouch.....he flopped hard. As such, it's so apparent that his presidency garners no respect or admiration for the USA as believed.

In fact, the way this plays out, it absolutely shows that the USA is garnering less respect now with a weak, naive, and tragically inexperienced president like Obama in the White House. This is not cause for celebration at all. But it does make Obama, and his water carriers in general look like fools for believing what was an utter fallacy to begin with. That is what I enjoy watching. The Olympics are not the issue here for me at all. It's their arrogance I enjoy seeing cut down to size. We were hated under Bush, but we were at least respected. Now we're hated and made a mockery of. Great...what a combo.

I would like to see Obama succeed in the war in Afghanistan. But that remains in doubt as he's bumbling that effort totally with no strategy or vision. And no real committment as his generals seem to hint at. I'd like to see him successful in economic policy, but he is a statist, big government leftist who has no apparent knowledge of business incentive or growth. And the numbers aren't lying right now. Obama's failing us hard economically.

The real thing I see that's petty, is while we have troops in Afghanistan, and we have an economy in recession, the President is over in Europe, wasting taxpayer dollars lobbying for the Olympics in Chicago. Obviously he's greasing the palms of political friends from his "hometown". In addition, petty is Democrats in Congress voting for war in Iraq, then immediately doing everything in their power to stifle the effort because the sitting President was a Republican. Up to and including comparing our soldiers to Nazi's and other such nonsense.

I'm hoping some of you liberals see this situation here for what it is. Although my hopes in that are very slim. This failure further erodes the influence of the Office of the POTUS. And liberals voted believing the results would be the opposite. Goes to show, even when you guys win...you lose. Unfortunately you drag us down with you.
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Perhaps because Chicago is not a good spot for the Olympics and also because hosting the Olympics is often a very costly operation which ends up costing the taxpayers a lot of money?

Not everything is about Obama.
True, but it did become about him once he injected himself into something not requiring Presidential intervention. Something he seems to have a problem with. And wasted alot of taxpayer dollars doing it. And Obama obviously disagrees with your assessment regarding Chicago as the locale. He seemed to think it would be a great spot.

It didn't have to be about the President. He made it about him. And so people will discuss it.
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Old 10-03-09, 01:43 AM   #40
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Given a choice, if I go to see the Olympics, I'd much rather go to Rio than Chicago. I'm glad they got it, happy for them. I hope they do a good job with it.


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Well, I'm not happy about where the Olympics will be happening. I couldn't care less about any of that.
Then why did you post in this thread? Just another opportunity to slam someone maybe?

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Personally, I'm laughing about the whole matter because Obama's presidency
And' we're all so proud of our last President, now aren't we.

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(according to liberals last fall) was supposed to "restore" respect and admiration to the USA....... it's so apparent that his presidency garners no respect or admiration for the USA as believed.
Couldn't have anything to do with the fact we invaded another country for no good reason, and our own system of greed has caused worldwide econimc crisis.... Nah. This all happened right after the last election. Before that, the world loved us. Really they did, Rush said so.

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That is what I enjoy watching. The Olympics are not the issue here for me at all.
Just the opportunity to blame a failure on someone is an issue in itself?

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I would like to see Obama succeed in the war in Afghanistan. But that remains in doubt as he's bumbling that effort totally with no strategy or vision.
Unlike the outstanding strategy and vision that took us into Iraq, and led the war in Afghanistan since 2001. Now it's all Obama's fault because he hasn't cleaned up this mess in less than 1 year. I just love this thinking.

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Up to and including comparing our soldiers to Nazi's and other such nonsense.
<ALAAAAAAAARRRRMMMM.... Godwin's Law has been invoked, thread nullified.

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I'm hoping some of you liberals see this situation here for what it is.
Some do. The current President is having to play out the worst hand ever dealt to a President in history. This all didn't start in November 2008, it all existed by then. Every item you're bitching about is a legacy item. Now your mad because the mess isn't over yet. Well Bubbah, it's going to take a while to mop up all this crap left behind.

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Goes to show, even when you guys win...you lose. Unfortunately you drag us down with you.
Not that any of the dragging down didn't happen over the last eight years, now did it.


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except for the well worn path to the mailbox
which is checked daily for;
unpaid tax notices
food stamps
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and both sitting inside telling each other that Obama has ruined my country.
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Old 10-03-09, 01:58 AM   #41
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Couldn't have anything to do with the fact we invaded another country for no good reason, and our own system of greed has caused worldwide econimc crisis.... Nah.
Wow, Michael Moore ... didn't know you posted here! Can I have your autograph?
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Some do. The current President is having to play out the worst hand ever dealt to a President in history.
Really? Are you serious? If that is your perspective on history, you sure your ranting and raving lunacy of a list isn't really simply autobiographical?

Ever hear of someone named Roosevelt, you know, who took office in the midst of THE Great Depression?

Seriously, maybe Obama could actually get something done if you could let go of his crotch, please.
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Every time I read crapola like this, I get this mental image of;

someone in a mullet
sitting in a garage sale lazy boy
pile of empty beer cans next to bare feet
tank top
unshaven
beer gut from hell
14 yellow teeth
TV tuned to wrestling or Roller Derby
covered with issues of Solder of Fortune
and Guns and Ammo
wife with perpetual rollers
in a Wal-mart bathrobe
pink fuzzy slippers
20 year old multicolored pickup outside
tuned to AM radio
knob ducktaped to tune in Rush only
on blocks
with a full gun rack
in the yard that hasn't been mowed in years
except for the well worn path to the mailbox
which is checked daily for;
unpaid tax notices
food stamps
unemployment check
welfare check
the "get government grants catalog"
orderad at 2;00am on a weekday
found in an informercial

and both sitting inside telling each other that Obama has ruined my country.
Liberal elitism at its finest.

Don't agree with the leftists? You're just trailer-trash lacking any education or sense of logical reasoning. I mean, we all know that leftists are the smart ones - you know, people who construct their arguments out of how they WANT the world to work versus how it actually does are definitely superior...

Everytime I read crapola like the end of your post, I get this mental image of someone working at an ACORN office attempting to "help" a hooker and pimp import underage girls for sex.

Yeah, that's a pretty stupid image to get, right? Kind of like yours.
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Old 10-03-09, 02:19 AM   #42
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Liberal elitism at its finest
Who said I was a liberal? I don't have any party affiliation, I'm not left or right. I'm just an American, watching my country be torn apart from the inside. We don't need to be attacked, we're doing a fine job of destroying it ourselves.

My point is, things are what they are. Doesn't mean I'm going to run out with blind hatred and spit on every move Obama makes. Maybe if all us "Americans", left, right, middle, whatever, start working together for common goals we might accomplish something.

I don't agree with many things Obama is doing. But he is my President, and this is my country. I'm going to do my part to help it, not hurt it.


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True, but it did become about him once he injected himself into something not requiring Presidential intervention.
You omit that he was already involved before he became President, and that he stepped back from that involvement once elected and only renewed it when America became the only country bidding that didn't have its leader pushing for the bid.

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Ever hear of someone named Roosevelt, you know, who took office in the midst of THE Great Depression?
Roosevelt didn't take office in the middle of a economic disaster and two seriously screwed up military campaigns while having to threaten one nut that they can't do anything about and pretending to threaten another nut though did he.
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Old 10-03-09, 04:15 AM   #44
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Who said I was a liberal? I don't have any party affiliation, I'm not left or right.
Is this a joke?

Liberalism and party affiliations are two different things, by the way. But your comment on our "system of greed" is CLEARLY liberal.
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I'm just an American, watching my country be torn apart from the inside. We don't need to be attacked, we're doing a fine job of destroying it ourselves.
Well, I agree there ... except I don't see the conservatives doing so. Rather, I see Obama sycophants such as yourself making excuses and otherwise accepting blunder after blunder, which is empowering our national rift, as it were.
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My point is, things are what they are. Doesn't mean I'm going to run out with blind hatred and spit on every move Obama makes.
That's good for you. In fact, I feel the same way.

However, if what you said was true and Obama was dealt the toughest hand ever given to a president (although that's not even close), why the hell was he in Copenhagen rather than working on more important issues?
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Maybe if all us "Americans", left, right, middle, whatever, start working together for common goals we might accomplish something.
That would be great, but the problem with your statement is that we all don't share "common goals". In fact, Obama's goals are turning out to be far left of what the common American wants.
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I don't agree with many things Obama is doing. But he is my President, and this is my country. I'm going to do my part to help it, not hurt it.
That's hilarious. So when the lefties were protesting the moves of Bush, that's "helping" but when conservatives protest Obama, that's hurting the country?

Right.
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LOL! Heard what I wanted? Actually, I simply read what YOU wrote. If it isn't what you meant, than going forward I suggest you restrict yourself to statements reflecting your actual meanings.

Yes, I skipped over other parts of your post - parts that either don't concern me or don't interest me - and commented on the "easy ones" (kind of wondering why you wrote them if they were so easy to refute).

If there's a particular point related to the points I was countering with, that you'd like me to comment on, let me know. I'll refute that as well, if it's something I disagree with.
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Old 10-03-09, 04:18 AM   #45
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Roosevelt didn't take office in the middle of a economic disaster and two seriously screwed up military campaigns while having to threaten one nut that they can't do anything about and pretending to threaten another nut though did he.
I would suggest reading up a little bit about the economic and international climate Roosevelt inherited in 1932.

Obama's challenges aren't even on the same scale.

And, let's not forget that Obama comes into office with his party having had control of both houses of congress for the previous two years (including one that he was a member of).
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