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Old 08-04-09, 12:45 PM   #1
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Default is the Obama Care money issue this simple?

QUESTION: Where does the money used to pay for obama's SocialistCare come from?

ANSWER: The Federal Government

QUESTION: Where does the Federal Government get its money?

ANSWER: From you, the tax payer

QUESTION: So explain to me again how my tax money is not paying for SocialistCare?

ANSWER: Ummmm....
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Old 08-04-09, 12:50 PM   #2
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Beleive it or not John. There's people on THIS website that want You to pay their Freight.
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Old 08-04-09, 12:55 PM   #3
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Beleive it or not John. There's people on THIS website that want You to pay their Freight.
GASP!!!! NFW!!! Of course there is.
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Old 08-04-09, 05:50 PM   #4
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Well...in my world Cuba is not know for healthcare.
Perhaps you should visit the wider world for a look.

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Well, in the US you're not legally allowed to go to Cuba for anything, so I'm not surprised that you don't think of it.
There is a limit placed on the number of US doctors who are allowed to get their training in Cuba.
If I recall correctly its only 200 doctors a year.

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People who travel abroad for medical care generally fly first class or take their own private jets.
More and more US companies are providing their employees with foriegn health treatment as part of their cover , its cheaper than using the current expensive bloated system in the States.

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And from practical experience, most of my fellow Americans seem to agree as they aren't exactly rushing your borders for health care. It's actually quite the opposite
Numbers don't back that up , a single Asian hospitals yearly intake of US health tourists manages to nearly equal the the entire number of health tourist the US recieves.
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Old 08-04-09, 12:53 PM   #5
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That's always been my biggest headache with people who want social reforms: convincing them that government cannot create revenues. It produces nothing worth buying, so it can only exist by taxes. In the case of police and fire departments, road construction, even the military, this is a necessary thing. I was going to say good, but it is my confirmed belief that the only way to guarantee a safe government is to mandate that anyone in a position to levy taxes be required to understand that they are, in the best cases, still only a necessary evil.

Of course that's also impossible.

Another fun one: when I say that government makes no money, I always get the answer "That's silly. The government is the only one who can make money." Explaining that printing paper that says 'Money' on it and actually earning revenue are two entirely different things is an excersise in frustration.
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Old 08-04-09, 12:58 PM   #6
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Very well put Steve.

Why is it taxpayers are told not to spend more than we bring in ?

But Government doe's it with a passion.
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Old 08-04-09, 01:13 PM   #7
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Very well put Steve.

Why is it taxpayers are told not to spend more than we bring in ?

But Government doe's it with a passion.

Because they can
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Old 08-04-09, 01:42 PM   #8
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Weeeell, most countries that adopt single-payer health care spend less of their GDP on healthcare than the United States, and achieve better or comparable results.

quick wiki link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_..._in_comparison

So, if the government pays for health care financed through taxes, and the country spends less money on healthcare overall, then you've got more money to spend on other things. In a way, the government is helping out.

Being paid for in tax revenues, naturally this runs up against the taxes-are-bad idea.

EDIT - Socialism! It'll eat your children!
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Old 08-04-09, 01:52 PM   #9
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Weeeell, most countries that adopt single-payer health care spend less of their GDP on healthcare than the United States, and achieve better or comparable results.!
Yes of course thats why people from all over the world come to the US for care.

http://yedda.com/questions/Canadian_...1869107797311/
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