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Old 05-30-09, 07:25 AM   #31
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To all IX long range UBoats-

After the recent alarming news of N.Korea carrying out illegal nuclear testing using short range BMs in the area all IX long range UBoats are ordered to immediately make preparations for N.Korea.Orders are to immediately blockade the area and use aggressive force on any N.Korean,Chinese and Russian shipping,with warships being a high priority,that may be transiting the area.Our involvement must be made in order to support our loyal allies the Japanese who for a long time have strove to maintain order and control in the region.

For those already out at sea orders are to return to the nearest axis port immediately and resupply with fuel and provisions.A large contingent of Milk Cows have been deployed to further support those already in far out sectors.

Our fight against the evil communists will prevail!

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Old 05-30-09, 07:32 AM   #32
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I agree Paul. Moreover, I agree with that excellent military history author Max Hastings, who said yesterday that the N.Korean leader was "quite mad, by any measure of the term".
Stratfor - a defense analyst bureau - has a somewhat different conclusion. Here is an extract of a recent article:

Kim Jong Il undoubtedly ranks very high among the world’s most idiosyncratic world leaders. But he has deftly transferred and consolidated control over a country that was run by a single individual, his father, for nearly 50 years. By balancing various groups and interests, he has both maintained internal control and loyalty and kept the attention of some of the world’s most powerful countries focused on North Korea for more than 15 years. Indeed, he has overseen the allocation of resources necessary to build both crude intercontinental ballistic missiles and crude nuclear devices while faced with crushing international sanctions. This is the track record of a competent (if annoying) leader, not a crazy one.

If Kim was merely suicidal, he has had the artillery, artillery rockets and short-range ballistic missiles at hand to destroy Seoul and invite a new Korean War since before his father died — a choice that would be far quicker, cheaper and even more complete than the prototype nuclear devices that North Korea has so far demonstrated. Rather, his actions have consistently shown that his foremost goal has been the survival of his regime. Indeed, he has actually curtailed much of the more aggressive activity that occurred during his father’s reign, such as attempting to assassinate South Korea’s president.

While Kim’s actions may seem unstable (and, indeed, they are designed to seem that way in order to induce an element of uncertainty at the negotiating table), Pyongyang regularly uses ballistic missile tests and even its nuclear tests as part of a larger strategy to not only keep itself relevant, but to ensure regime survival.
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Old 05-30-09, 07:40 AM   #33
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I just hate bloody communists,bolsheviks,lefties,and liberals,and would love to nerve gas the lot of em! thats my take on the whole affair.Thats without getting too political here,after all,this so called notion of diplomacy calls for the freedom of speech (yeah right,just come and live in Britain)

All the above mentioned groups are the reason this world is f###ed,there is no order or strength left,just pansies jumping on the band wagon all the time. (god they make my skin crawl)

Sorry if that has shocked anyone,but its just my view on the world.
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Old 05-30-09, 08:01 AM   #34
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I just hate bloody communists,bolsheviks,lefties,and liberals,and would love to nerve gas the lot of em! thats my take on the whole affair.Thats without getting too political here,after all,this so called notion of diplomacy calls for the freedom of speech (yeah right,just come and live in Britain)

All the above mentioned groups are the reason this world is f###ed,there is no order or strength left,just pansies jumping on the band wagon all the time. (god they make my skin crawl)

Sorry if that has shocked anyone,but its just my view on the world.
So, you are obviously living in the wrong times..........
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Old 05-30-09, 08:42 AM   #35
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Leandros,it CAN get difficult yes,having to cope with various groups of people,who in my opinion seem to want nothing more than to disrupt or destroy things.
I would like a return to a lot of the old values,even though its impossible now.I know the world (Britain and Europe mainly) has experienced its fair share of bloodshed and darkness over the centuries,but I have no doubt at all that folk were more sensible and lived in a closer harmony with the natural world.Something which is totally devoid in this corrupt and materialistic world.

And I have no doubt a lot of people will have to agree with me.Some of the things are just plain wrong and abhorrent today

I like to consider myself a bit of a lone wolf,and that in itself causes problems,as you tend to isolate yourself more from the mainstream than the others,unless of course when i'm in here,where I enjoy mixing with you all.Part of the pack in other words

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Old 05-30-09, 12:11 PM   #36
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In relation to the story posted a bit earlier in the thread about U 234, was there not a U boat that was also carrying something to Japan, that was torpedoed by a British Submarine? one of the only sub to sub torpedo victorys ever recorded? or did I just imagine that.
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I would like a return to a lot of the old values,even though its impossible now.[/QUOTE]

So I can further understand your position, could you please list these old values you were referring to?
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Old 05-30-09, 04:03 PM   #38
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Old values that governments (an invisible war done through political correctness) and many other groups have stripped from our society.I am using Britain as an example here,no doubt its just as bad elsewhere.Labour for example,have actually created a totalitarian regime based on guilt for starters,teaching people to be ashamed of who they are,to deny their past and all the country has achieved over the years.They disregard our army,the elderly get punished where it should be the rich,and some of the crimes today are purely wicked,and I know most of it didnt exist in my parent's time,because they tell be about it.Mass (uncontrolled) immigration also,is causing more tension and hatred around the country lately,its just a matter of time before the gaskets start flying.
So old values are the sort of things like,stability,security,sensible people,proud people,close knit communities instead of isolated and warring communities,respect for the elderly (even more so for war veterans) ...and so on.

Well,you asked,and I think thats as accurate a description as I can offer

What country are you in anyway? what are things like over there?
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Old 05-31-09, 03:32 AM   #39
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Leandros,it CAN get difficult yes,having to cope with various groups of people,who in my opinion seem to want nothing more than to disrupt or destroy things.
I would like a return to a lot of the old values,even though its impossible now.I know the world (Britain and Europe mainly) has experienced its fair share of bloodshed and darkness over the centuries,but I have no doubt at all that folk were more sensible and lived in a closer harmony with the natural world.Something which is totally devoid in this corrupt and materialistic world.

And I have no doubt a lot of people will have to agree with me.Some of the things are just plain wrong and abhorrent today

I like to consider myself a bit of a lone wolf,and that in itself causes problems,as you tend to isolate yourself more from the mainstream than the others,unless of course when i'm in here,where I enjoy mixing with you all.Part of the pack in other words

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I follow you, Paul. And the SH is a very good means to soothe ones frustration of a world that doesn't conform to one's own ideas. That said, and as a compliment to my insert on North Korea, the powers villifying North Korea doesn't necessarily do it because they themselves are so nice. Or have pure motifs. It is all a power play - ensuring one's own interests. Which were also the reason for the two large conflicts of the last century. Just my opinion.

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Its sunny here too.Whats the temperature like up in Norway mate?,i'm surprised its hot and sunny.Wonder if the Vikings ever sunbathed on their longboats,and drank lemonade instead of beer? ...yeah right
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Its sunny here too.Whats the temperature like up in Norway mate?,i'm surprised its hot and sunny.Wonder if the Vikings ever sunbathed on their longboats,and drank lemonade instead of beer? ...yeah right
They emigrated because it was too hot. That's why they settled on Greenland.........
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