Do you embrace failure? - Page 3

Cakewalk · 03-28-07, 10:35 AM

Having never used manual TDC in SH3, I save fairly often in SH4, since I decided to start my career right off the bat on all realism settings (save for the tasty external camera). I need to gain more experience before I go without saving.

That being said, saving before firing each torpedo is kind of cheesy.

Charos · 03-31-07, 05:01 AM

I embrace failure with open arms

100% Full difficulty all the way

Patrol #1 Tambor (SS-199) USS Tautog

I Left Perl and deployed my spy as ordered all with only getting sound on one merchant.

Set up a search pattern 2 days later - made contact with 2 merchants.

Spotted 2*2ton fishing boats - surfaced and destroyed them with the deck gun.

Nothing else spotted up the coast for 24 hours.

Then I committed sub commander error #2 I returned to the area of the crime scene in the night.

Out of the inky back came an enemy AC making a B-Line right for me, his bombs were on the money.

Rear torpedo room bulkhead failed, rear decoy out of action, rear torpedo room flooded and Anti aircraft gun destroyed.

I had to stay surfaced at flank speed to keep my rear end from sinking and the damage took over 4 Hrs to repair, lucky for me it was only just getting light by the time repairs were completed.
Although the Anti air gun could not be repaired so I attempted a periscope depth dive.

I hesitantly attempted periscope depth at 4Knots - the planesmen couldnt hold her and I order BLOW BALLAST!.

On the surface i ran for my life making a B-line for Perl.

AIRCRAFT SPOTTED! Oh dear -- RIGHT FULL RUDDER!

We managed to steer clear of harms way.

I limped all the way back.

I made it back to Perl with a full load of torpedo's and most importantly no casualties.

The base commander beamed me a big grin when I was told that not only
was I the second most successfull submarine commander but Tautog was the
current leader for sunken vessels numbering two - albeit 2*2ton vessels.

Volum · 03-31-07, 05:56 AM

I save usually before big attacks, and after a sucsessfull convoy raid. Also save if theres been a while since the last time.

The first time you experience a CTD after sinking a carrier and you forgot to save.......You make DAMN SURE there will never be a time number 2!

SharpShin · 03-31-07, 07:52 AM

I also play on 100% and don't cheat to be successful. But the bottom line is having fun and some people can't legitimately sink ships and have to cheat to have fun. More power to them. But they shouldn't come here bragging about how they got 100k tons and it was easy lol.

gonzlor · 03-31-07, 07:58 AM

I save before and after fights with large covoys and anywhere I've had a CTD before.

Beery · 03-31-07, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpShin

I also play on 100% and don't cheat to be successful. But the bottom line is having fun and some people can't legitimately sink ships and have to cheat to have fun. More power to them. But they shouldn't come here bragging about how they got 100k tons and it was easy lol.

Yeah really!

I agree with you though, people should play how they want. I was looking back on my earlier post and it seemed a bit elitist, so I have to concede that saving before every torpedo is a valid playstyle - just not one I understand.

codmander · 03-31-07, 09:16 AM

noobish for sure only save after they sink

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParaB

Yesterday I played a multiplayer game of SH4 and chatted with a couple of guys about the general gameplay. What surprised me a bit was that obviously everybody except me regularly completes 100k tonnage patrols, sinking battleships and carriers left and right. When I told them that I often suffered from dud torpedoes or a bad manual aiming I got the reply "well, always save before firing your tops, then you can reload if you miss".

Errrr... this got me wondering a bit.

For me my failures are an essential part of the SH4 atmosphere. If I save/load for every attack until I get the perfect result, what's the motivation to play the game at all? Every patrol will yield the same success.

OTOH only when you miss a battleship or suffer from duds will you appreciate the feeling of triumph next time you actually hit a big target. And only if you complete a patrol with a meagre success you will come to appreciate a really good patrol.

Dizoak · 03-31-07, 12:10 PM

Not me either, just the other day I set out on my 2nd patrol towards Honshu, intercepted an unescorted pair of passenger liners (more than 20,000 tons total im sure) and proceded to fire ALL my torpedoes, with nothing to show for it, then turned around and went home. Come to think of it, why did they give me command of a submarine?

03-31-07, 05:56 AM	#33
Volum Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I save usually before big attacks, and after a sucsessfull convoy raid. Also save if theres been a while since the last time. The first time you experience a CTD after sinking a carrier and you forgot to save.......You make DAMN SURE there will never be a time number 2! __________________ <Space for rent> Anybody found a sig?

03-28-07, 10:35 AM	#31
Cakewalk Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 212 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Having never used manual TDC in SH3, I save fairly often in SH4, since I decided to start my career right off the bat on all realism settings (save for the tasty external camera). I need to gain more experience before I go without saving. That being said, saving before firing each torpedo is kind of cheesy.

03-31-07, 05:01 AM	#32
Charos Helmsman Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 109 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I embrace failure with open arms 100% Full difficulty all the way Patrol #1 Tambor (SS-199) USS Tautog I Left Perl and deployed my spy as ordered all with only getting sound on one merchant. Set up a search pattern 2 days later - made contact with 2 merchants. Spotted 22ton fishing boats - surfaced and destroyed them with the deck gun. Nothing else spotted up the coast for 24 hours. Then I committed sub commander error #2 I returned to the area of the crime scene in the night. Out of the inky back came an enemy AC making a B-Line right for me, his bombs were on the money. Rear torpedo room bulkhead failed, rear decoy out of action, rear torpedo room flooded and Anti aircraft gun destroyed. I had to stay surfaced at flank speed to keep my rear end from sinking and the damage took over 4 Hrs to repair, lucky for me it was only just getting light by the time repairs were completed. Although the Anti air gun could not be repaired so I attempted a periscope depth dive. I hesitantly attempted periscope depth at 4Knots - the planesmen couldnt hold her and I order BLOW BALLAST!. On the surface i ran for my life making a B-line for Perl. AIRCRAFT SPOTTED! Oh dear -- RIGHT FULL RUDDER! We managed to steer clear of harms way. I limped all the way back. I made it back to Perl with a full load of torpedo's and most importantly no casualties. The base commander beamed me a big grin when I was told that not only was I the second most successfull submarine commander but Tautog was the current leader for sunken vessels numbering two - albeit 22ton vessels.

03-31-07, 07:52 AM	#34
SharpShin Sailor man Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 47 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I also play on 100% and don't cheat to be successful. But the bottom line is having fun and some people can't legitimately sink ships and have to cheat to have fun. More power to them. But they shouldn't come here bragging about how they got 100k tons and it was easy lol.

03-31-07, 07:58 AM	#35
gonzlor Bosun Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 69 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I save before and after fights with large covoys and anywhere I've had a CTD before.

03-31-07, 12:10 PM	#38
Dizoak Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grid Reference CA Posts: 47 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Not me either, just the other day I set out on my 2nd patrol towards Honshu, intercepted an unescorted pair of passenger liners (more than 20,000 tons total im sure) and proceded to fire ALL my torpedoes, with nothing to show for it, then turned around and went home. Come to think of it, why did they give me command of a submarine?