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Old 09-05-17, 05:15 AM   #421
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Even in Trump's "reality show" he evidently didn't call the shots: more than one of the participants, both in front of and behind the camera have stated the actual "You're Fired!" decision was made, not by Trump, but by the producers of the show who transmitted their decision via a small video screen mounted in what appeared to the viewers to be a business desk phone located in front of Trump...

What we have now is a critical situation resting in the hands of the most ill-equipped, ill-informed, ill-prepared, ill-tempered, unstable and inept person ever to sit in the Oval Office. Hopefully better minds and temperament, such as Gen. Kelly, can steer the Titanic that is Trump away from the icebergs...




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Old 09-05-17, 06:48 AM   #422
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Fact is America can not fire the first shot without dragging China and Russia into the war, so America will have to swallow the bitter pill. Saying that they should say if NK fired first at American soil and her Allies the result will be the end of Kim and his clapping mindless mob.
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Old 09-05-17, 07:56 AM   #423
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The only real option is to declare war to NK using conventional weapons and warn if NK launches a nuke then they will be nuked. However if they wish to negotiate a deal then they should meet.
Something along this line could possibly work.
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Old 09-05-17, 08:59 AM   #424
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The only real option is to declare war to NK using conventional weapons and warn if NK launches a nuke then they will be nuked. However if they wish to negotiate a deal then they should meet.
Something along this line could possibly work.
Fear doesn't work on a nation that has no fear of God ... The Greek definition of fear is 'respect'. Somewhere, somehow, someway, along the line China has promised North Korea protection from USA aggression.

North Korea wants us to leave them alone out of fear that they will strike back if we try to take them out of possession of nuclear weapons in this modern nuclear age. They want to strike a peace treaty and have their nuclear arsenal too. We tried to talk them into peace before and they just kept on plotting and planning how to obtain a nuclear weapon that could reach the USA.

Pakistan has 300 short range nuclear weapons aimed at India ... Why don't we hear of NK doing the same against SK? Why, is because they are still brothers and sisters and want SK to join them, which works both ways in that SK also considers NK brothers and sisters ... it's just that they have different leaders with SK being a more free and open society.

They have no intentions of striking first ... they just want us to respect them.
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Fear doesn't work on a nation that has no fear of God ...
Not quite sure I understand this. I would imagine that secular people who only believe in one life would be more prone to fear than those who believe in multiple lives.
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Old 09-05-17, 03:06 PM   #426
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China is key but it is a conflicted party. On the one hand it does not want to see a nuclear-armed North Korea and it has made its view clear to Pyongyang on many occasions.
However, it does not want to see the North Korean regime swept away. This would result in millions of refugees flooding into China and would probably result in a unified Korea very much in the US orbit. This is seen in Beijing as worse than having a difficult nuclear neighbour.
If China were to take the view that the coincidence of a rapidly advancing North Korean nuclear programme and the uncertainties of the Trump Administration's diplomatic capabilities means that there is a very real risk of misunderstanding and catastrophe, then maybe it might bring much greater pressure to bear on Pyongyang.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41150291

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Did you notice this news item yet?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-w...ast-1504690205

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BEIJING—China is amping up monitoring for signs of radioactive fallout from North Korea’s latest nuclear test, concerned that contamination could provoke a public outcry and force Beijing to harden its approach to Pyongyang, diplomats and analysts say.
NK has indicated that it will continue testing nuclear devices and missiles too, but if that mountain releases any radiation it could cause a domino effect for her surrounding nations.

Also keep noticing that Russia is telegraphing signals that they are against any military solution to the NK crises.

Putin: North Korea crisis may be 'impossible' to solve
(CNN)A day after predicting "global catastrophe" if North Korea's nuclear tests lead to anything other than talks, Russian President Vladimir Putin has said the situation …

Putin rebuffs sanctions, favors N. Korea security
MOSCOW -- Russian President Vladimir Putin again rejected U.S. calls for new sanctions against North Korea after its most powerful nuclear test, echoing China's
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Also keep noticing that Russia is telegraphing signals that they are against any military solution to the NK crises.

Putin: North Korea crisis may be 'impossible' to solve
(CNN)A day after predicting "global catastrophe" if North Korea's nuclear tests lead to anything other than talks, Russian President Vladimir Putin has said the situation …

Putin rebuffs sanctions, favors N. Korea security
MOSCOW -- Russian President Vladimir Putin again rejected U.S. calls for new sanctions against North Korea after its most powerful nuclear test, echoing China's
VLAD the Dis-Putinator is a 'real politkker'; We should follow his lead and give short-range nukes to Turkey, Vietnam, Philippines, Japan and South Korea....and quietly withdraw our embassies from China, Russia(already well started) and the five recipient nations of our newly nuke-weaponized allies....and let them settle it. We'll sit it out around Guam and 'dust off' any survivors.....
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Refraining from U.S. from military action would certainly prove Trump is colluding Putin. It would also show Kim Jong-un is really a CIA operative working for the Putin Trump syndicates plot to poison China with radiation and convert all Chinese to muslims. Soon Godzilla will rise from the depths of the Sea of Japan with orders to attack the underbelly of China.

Then and only then will Mt. Mannen fall.

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Refraining U.S. from military action would certainly prove Trump is colluding Putin. It also indicates Kim Jong-un is really a CIA operative working for the Putin Trump syndicates plot to poison China with radiation and convert all Chinese to muslims. Soon Godzilla will rise from the depths of the Sea of Japan with orders to attack the underbelly of China.

Then and only then will Mt. Mannen fall.
Is this the fake news Trump warns us about?
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I guess the key to a diplomatic and peaceful solution to the NK's nuklear race problem is China and Russia.

These two country are some of the closes friend to Kim-A pressure from their side could perhaps make Kim think second time.

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