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06-12-20, 10:24 AM | #3916 |
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The "R value" - the coronavirus reproduction number - remains between 0.7 and 0.9 in the UK but in the south-west of England it could be above one, according to the latest figures from the government's scientific advisers.
Scotland's First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, confirms 15,709 people have tested positive for Covid-19, an increase of 27 from yesterday. Prosecutors from northern Italy have questioned Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte for about three hours in Rome about the government’s response to coronavirus. In around a dozen states across the US south and west, Covid-19 cases have been on the rise following the Memorial Day holiday weekend at the end of May. Arizona, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Arkansas, Utah, Alaska, California and Florida are among the states seeing an uptick. Twitter has removed more than 170,000 accounts it says were tied to an operation to spread a Chinese government disinformation campaign. Russia's President Vladimir Putin went without a mask as he appeared at an open-air flag-raising ceremony in Moscow to mark Russia Day, a public holiday. The 67-year-old, who has largely been working in his residence outside Moscow, praised the spirit of the Russian people as well their traditions and culture. Russia, which at 511,423 has the world's third-largest number of virus cases, has gradually eased lockdown measures this month. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's wife, 42-year-old Olena Zelenska, has tested positive for Covid-19.
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06-12-20, 11:05 AM | #3917 | ||
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06-12-20, 11:15 AM | #3918 |
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Pick your country in the options line at the top. Note that thes enumbers necessarily only include known cases. Also keep mij mind that these nubmers are not exact counting numbers one by one, but often also incldued statistcially calculated numbers. I do not say that means they are way off the mark. I just mention it because most people do not know that and take the numbers literally. They most likely, almost impossibly, could be lower. But very likely the real numbers are higher.
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06-12-20, 04:14 PM | #3919 |
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Is the PPE deficit still a problem in Europe?
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06-12-20, 04:37 PM | #3920 | |
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FFP2-equivalent masks can be gotten easily since some time now via ebay, the prices are way down now compared to the criminal prices demanded in March and April. 10 such masks for 15 Euros is acceptable. Higher than before, but not out of the range considering that market prices follow supply and demand. Many get advertised as being licensed with the European CE-label, which is a seal confirming that the item has undergone European norm tests successfully, but many if not most all of these masks instead come only with the Chinese forged seal CE that means nothing more than "Chinese Exports" and got implemented by Bejing to mislead European customers, the design is very much similar, you need to look very closely. However, such masks must not necessarily be duds, and indeed most likely are not, they claim to comply with British norms which practially are not much, if at all, different to FFP2 norms. Many of thes emasks get used in hospitals as well, CE yes or no.
So the situation has relaxed, yes. Most people do not care and blindly follow what the government tells them: wearing cotton masks instead with dramatically reduced self-protective filtering and dubious efficiency against fine aerosols. I do not use these in rooms and shops, and would consider them only for outdoor use - but I do not wear masks outdoors, but navigate and time my moves and shoppings so that I do not run into groups of people outdoor and rush hours. Do filtering right, or do not care at all. Alibi compromises are foul compromises. Do it right - or don't care to even get started. The situation in hospitals also has become relaxed regarding supply with PPE. First corona stations also have been dismantled again already two weeks ago. But the virus is not gone, and number of new infections are growing again, and it is unclear of and in what way the virus has mutated. Clinical grade hand desinfectant also can be had again via ebay, it was sold out or banned for longer time. However, the prices for Sterillium and such brands still are doubled, compared to January. 1l of it costed 8-12 Euros before, now still costs 15-25 Euros. Thats supppoy and demand. At the hbeioght of thre crisis it was not to be found, and the last prices before that tipped 100 Euros. Its not over until the fat lady sings. I am still on condition yellow and switch to condition red when entering supermarkets and shops. I wear fitting, unobtrusive laboratory glasses over my regular (small, very open) glasses now when entering shops, by design they are easy to be overlooked by others, so its no big deal, nobody stares. And if he would, I would not care anyway. These glasses were ouzt for months, too, but now are available again. Discipline of people increasingly starts to drop. They want to not care anymore, its especially the younger ones, student-age. And there is this story: Quote:
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06-12-20, 05:01 PM | #3921 |
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Well, I guess better than they used to. The chinese CE thing is quite sad tbh.
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06-13-20, 01:41 AM | #3922 | |
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so much a sad thing but criminal intention to deceive people.
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06-13-20, 01:45 AM | #3923 |
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.parts of bejing have been sealed off after the virus was found on wooden chopping boards on a meat market. Several infections are already confirmed. Police is reported to be all over the place.
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06-13-20, 04:32 AM | #3924 |
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06-13-20, 04:33 AM | #3925 |
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06-13-20, 04:35 AM | #3926 |
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Brazil's death toll becomes second highest in the world, surpassing the UK's with more than 41,000 victims.
Far-right President Jair Bolsonaro continues to play down the virus, focusing on the economic damage of lockdown. Outbreak from a wholesale market in Beijing leads to fears of a second wave of the virus in the Chinese capital. Hong Kong's iconic Ocean Park theme park reopens after more than four months of temporary closure. From today, people living alone in England and Northern Ireland will be able to form a support bubble with another household. The Queen's official birthday will be marked later with a new ceremony instead of the annual Trooping the Colour parade. British Airways' treatment of staff during the coronavirus crisis "is a national disgrace", MPs claim.
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06-13-20, 04:40 AM | #3927 |
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Thousands of people have gathered in cities across Australia, rallying in support of refugee rights and Black Lives Matter.
The demonstrations have been held despite bans on mass gatherings to contain the spread of coronavirus. Today is be the first day in months that many people who live alone can spend time with loved ones as new “social bubble" rules come into force in England and Northern Ireland. Adults who live alone are allowed to visit one other household and are even allowed to stay overnight. In England the same goes for single parents of under-18s. An official in the Chinese capital Beijing says the city's Fengtai district is on a "wartime emergency footing" as lockdowns are enforced in 11 neighbourhoods over fears of a renewed coronavirus outbreak. The Americas now account for about half of total confirmed coronavirus cases globally, with Brazil the epicentre of the epicentre. The largest country in Latin America, it has 828,810 confirmed cases - the highest in the world behind the US. It also has the second-highest death toll in the world (nearly 42,000), having overtaken the UK. India and Armenia have both reported their biggest daily jump in new infections - 11,458 and 723 respectively. India currently has the fourth-highest number of cases worldwide. Over 7.6 million cases have been reported worldwide, along with 425,000 deaths, according to a tally by Johns Hopkins University.
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06-13-20, 05:31 AM | #3928 | |
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The Neue Zürcher Zeitung writes:
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Many people over here fall victim to the dilemma that the success of lock down in reucing cas enumbers has reduced the cas enumbers - and that now serves as an excuse to question that the measurements were necessa yin the first. Hygienics experts point out that the late reaction of making masks mandatory has created in the first the need to loock down. if we would have started to carry masks in late January, we may have gotten around a total lock down. I could kagien that this indeed holds truth. But even in this forum i was attacked back then for telling people they should wear masks - and I was late, it was early March when I started to raise that recomemndation. Everybody who wnated to see and had an understanding of ogarithimc progressions, could have known by then at the latest what was coming down our way.
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06-13-20, 12:04 PM | #3929 |
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oops wrong thread
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06-13-20, 01:18 PM | #3930 |
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