US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 241

u crank · 08-18-17, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Instead of tearing down these statues/monuments, why not just erect an informative plaque on them explaining the history and the affects of the events depicted in the statue/memorial?

Citizens both current and future are not best served by concealing out history but by exposing them to our history (the good, the bad, and the ugly) and in educating the citizens about the history.

Stop it. You are making way to much sense and I'm getting confused.

u crank · 08-18-17, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Speaking of awesome blogs I thought this was spot on.

Good find August. She gets it absolutely dead on about the media. Time to call these media types out for their blatant bias and political agenda.

vienna · 08-18-17, 03:12 PM

Obliterating history? One guy gave a pretty good response in Trump's favorite communication method, the Tweet:

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All these folks worried about erasing history when the Confederate statues come down will be thrilled to learn about the existence of books.

— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) August 16, 2017

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0e8cc855d66ee

Although, given the literacy level of some of the Neo-Nazi, KKK, etc. members, maybe books aren't an option...

...and we all know Trump can't deal with anything over 140 characters, particularly if it doesn't mention him in a glowing manner...

<O>

Platapus · 08-18-17, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Stop it. You are making way to much sense and I'm getting confused.

We could have plaques on both sides of each monument.

On one side we can have "It's all Obama's fault"
On the other side we can have "It's all Trump's fault"

Everyone is happy.

eddie · 08-18-17, 03:44 PM

They could move the statues to some Civil War battlefields too, plenty of them in Virginia. The park service has said that the statue of Lee in Gettysburg will not be taken down, so why not move the others to Battlefields a particular general was present during the war.

Mr Quatro · 08-18-17, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

We could have plaques on both sides of each monument.

On one side we can have "It's all Obama's fault"
On the other side we can have "It's all Trump's fault"

Everyone is happy.

Cute! Bound to pass the GOP Congress and the Senate, but if it is designed like the Vietnam memorial ... it would be a lot longer even using both sides.

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620,000 soldiers
Approximately 620,000 soldiers died from combat, accident, starvation, and disease during the Civil War.

How do you build a wall that holds that many names?

Rockstar · 08-18-17, 06:42 PM

meh, I dont care what ya do with the statues both sides of my family didnt come to the U.S. until the 1890's.

Rockstar · 08-18-17, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

We could have plaques on both sides of each monument.

On one side we can have "It's all Obama's fault"
On the other side we can have "It's all Trump's fault"

Everyone is happy.

Rockstar · 08-18-17, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Speaking of awesome blogs I thought this was spot on.

August · 08-18-17, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Cute! Bound to pass the GOP Congress and the Senate, but if it is designed like the Vietnam memorial ... it would be a lot longer even using both sides.

There was a lot of opposition to the Vietnam memorial when it was first proposed. "Black wall of shame" it was called and caused the addition of the three soldier statue now facing it.

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How do you build a wall that holds that many names?

I'd bet a fair number of them would be unknown.

Skybird · 08-19-17, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Speaking of awesome blogs I thought this was spot on.

"The media is simulating a reality."

I liked that.

Catfish · 08-19-17, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

We could have plaques on both sides of each monument.
On one side we can have "It's all Obama's fault"
On the other side we can have "It's all Trump's fault"
Everyone is happy.

And good find, August

Skybird · 08-19-17, 05:59 AM

Heck, that young lady ^ really has her acts together. I'm impressed.

And maybe even better:

"Sweetie, can't you just being gay?" LOL

And is this the best?

August · 08-23-17, 02:20 PM

Is free speech dead in my country? Maybe so if this is allowed to continue in the direction it is going.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/23/...embarrassment/

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The general atmosphere of hysteria during the post-Charlottesville fallout has been jaw-dropping. Above are excellent examples. Yet what happened last week in Boston is even more so—a case study in the growing delirium taking ahold of American politics, especially progressive politics.
Activists in Boston organized a free-speech rally to advocate First Amendment rights. It was an event concerned with freedom of expression, nothing more. Indeed, one of the rally’s speakers, Gavin McInnes, affirmed that “The rally on Saturday in Boston couldn’t be farther from the rally [in Charlottesville]…We are socially liberal, fiscal conservatives who think America has a lot to be proud of. . . . We are pro-gay, multicultural, pro-Israel, pro-family and anti-Nazi.”

Another organizer of the rally, Louis Sender, said that the purpose of [the rally is] just to do free speech…That’s all it’s ever been.” The organizers even planned to begin the rally with a moment of silence to Heather Heyer, the victim of Charlottesville’s white nationalist terror attack.
No matter. Boston turned out thousands upon thousands of protesters. Fifteen thousand protesters showed up to rail against the free speech organizers—15,000, in comparison to a few dozen rally attendees. Fearing for their safety, the rally organizers eventually fled Boston Common with a police escort. In a genuinely eerie display of threatening intent, the protesters began to chant: “Make them walk! Make them walk!”

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More shameful still was the media’s approach to covering the rally. The organizers of the rally explicitly affirmed that it was an event in support of free speech. Yet major media outlets treated this explanation as if it were a smokescreen, couching the term “free speech” in “scare quotes:” CBS News, NPR, the Washington Post, Slate, the Boston Globe, Reuters, CNBC, USA Today, Politico, Yahoo, the Daily Beast, the New York Daily News, countless others—all approached the idea of free speech as if it were an alien concept written in an extraterrestrial language.
Some outlets took it to an even more desperately shameful level: the New York Daily News, for instance, claimed that the protesters “chase[d] away white nationalists” without mentioning the rally organizers and speakers who explicitly disavowed white nationalism, while the Chicago Tribune heavily implied that the rally was a white nationalist gathering, with an enormous headline screaming: “Massive counterprotest against white nationalism upstages ‘free speech rally’ in Boston.” What a disgraceful abuse of media power.

Aktungbby · 09-06-17, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

"Good help is hard to find"

We'll leave that remark to the current bankrupt(morally and otherwi$e) now infesting the White House!

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Originally Posted by vienna

I don't know why Trump is so upset about the taking down of the statues of Lee, Beauregard, etc.: didn't Trump say he only liked generals who win?

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Originally Posted by Platapus

We could have plaques on both sides of each monument.

On one side we can have "It's all Obama's fault"
On the other side we can have "It's all Trump's fault"

Everyone is happy.

08-18-17, 03:44 PM	#3605
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	They could move the statues to some Civil War battlefields too, plenty of them in Virginia. The park service has said that the statue of Lee in Gettysburg will not be taken down, so why not move the others to Battlefields a particular general was present during the war. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

08-19-17, 05:59 AM	#3613
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,716 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Heck, that young lady ^ really has her acts together. I'm impressed. And maybe even better: "Sweetie, can't you just being gay?" LOL And is this the best? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-18-17, 06:42 PM	#3607
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	meh, I dont care what ya do with the statues both sides of my family didnt come to the U.S. until the 1890's.