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Old 05-12-20, 01:24 PM   #3481
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British, born in Southampton, Hampshire to an Indian Punjabi family.
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Old 05-12-20, 01:26 PM   #3482
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UK government scheme paying wages of 7.5 million furloughed workers extended to October to help economy "bounce back"

Concerned workers have option of complaining to government if employers not abiding by safety guidelines, says senior official.

Official UK death toll rises by 627 to 32,692 but excess deaths - which include those indirectly caused by virus - top 50,000

Top US health adviser Dr Anthony Fauci warns states against re-opening too
soon and risking new outbreaks.
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Old 05-12-20, 01:33 PM   #3484
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You could at least have tried to laugh a bit.
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We have a Ferengi as President...









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Public Health Wales (PHW) said a total of 1,132 people have died in Wales after testing positive for coronavirus, an increase of 16 on Monday's figures.

A further 105 people have tested positive for Covid-19, bringing the total number of positive cases in Wales to 11,573.

Germany has seen a rise in its reproduction rate, or the rate of virus spread, after easing its lockdown - raising fears that infections could jump again as countries end their restrictions.

Denmark was one of the first European nations to adopt lockdown measures, and one of the first to end them. Primary school pupils returned to class on 15 April, and hairdressers reopened just days later.

Indian PM Narendra Modi unveils a $266bn (£217bn) support package to help the country mitigate the damage caused by the outbreak.

In Spain, a 113-year-old woman - believed to be the country's oldest - has recovered from Covid-19

New York City's Broadway theatres will remain closed until at least September.

The Lebanese cabinet has just declared the country will be in “total” shutdown from Wednesday at 19:00 (16:00 GMT) until Monday at 05:00. This is after a resurgence of cases reported on Monday and Sunday.
The country has 870 confirmed cases according to Johns Hopkins University, and 26 deaths due to the virus.
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Old 05-12-20, 01:48 PM   #3487
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You could at least have tried to laugh a bit.
Afraid not, my wife is a Punjabi.
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Old 05-12-20, 02:00 PM   #3488
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Thats not on Vulcan.
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Old 05-12-20, 02:02 PM   #3489
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Germany has seen a rise in its reproduction rate, or the rate of virus spread, after easing its lockdown - raising fears that infections could jump again as countries end their restrictions.
They said today they will from now on report a "corrected" R-value only, wich is below 1.0 since weeks and by their claim is more suited to mean something.

Chinese deja vu.
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Old 05-12-20, 02:11 PM   #3490
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While Stockholm, Sweden har reach around 30-40 % hoard immunity.
Which mean when this Corona return in the autumn or winter..Sweden would be better to fight it, then we the Danes and other Europeans."

When Corona return it will most likely have mutated and if this be the case, would an immunity against this Strain(L) help ?
First of all nobody knows if the immunity levels are significantly higher in Sweden than in the lockdown countries. Most critics of lockdown measures neglect that in Sweden the lion share of people reduced the numbers of social contacts, worked in home office etc. voluntarily.

Nobody knows how long a immunized person is in fact immune. The virus constantly mutates, slowly but perpetually. How "good" are the antibodies produced by the first infection? Ask a fortune-teller.

Some fun facts, cause the battle is raging between "lockdowners" and "looseners":

If you compare the per-capita death rates of different countries most of the data makes sense:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/c...EU+SWE+GBR+USA

Germany, Denmark: Early moderate lockdown, good healthcare system

USA: Late response, incompetent federal governance, poor healthcare system

Sweden: No lockdown, well educated population, fair healthcare system

UK: Hard but much too late lockdown, flagging healthcare system

Belgium: Well, it's Belgium, 'nuff said.
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^Thank you skidman

Secondly talking about this famous second wave of Corona the leader of the Danish serum institut said following

He consider it 'very unlikely' that there will be another wave of corona virus.

And this is why I'm totally confused.

Some expert say this other say that...I who aren't exactly an expert in medicin is confused.

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Old 05-12-20, 04:45 PM   #3492
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Hey forum medical experts is this Graham guy right?

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Old 05-13-20, 03:15 AM   #3493
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First of all nobody knows if the immunity levels are significantly higher in Sweden than in the lockdown countries. Most critics of lockdown measures neglect that in Sweden the lion share of people reduced the numbers of social contacts, worked in home office etc. voluntarily.

Nobody knows how long a immunized person is in fact immune. The virus constantly mutates, slowly but perpetually. How "good" are the antibodies produced by the first infection? Ask a fortune-teller.

Some fun facts, cause the battle is raging between "lockdowners" and "looseners":

If you compare the per-capita death rates of different countries most of the data makes sense:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/c...EU+SWE+GBR+USA

Germany, Denmark: Early moderate lockdown, good healthcare system

USA: Late response, incompetent federal governance, poor healthcare system

Sweden: No lockdown, well educated population, fair healthcare system

UK: Hard but much too late lockdown, flagging healthcare system

Belgium: Well, it's Belgium, 'nuff said.
Adding to Sweden, some time ago when reading about Vitamine D i read that in Europe Sweden is way, way ahead in supplementing food with Vitamine D, they do this much more than anyone else in Europe. The text and table did not say however whether it is done by adding Vit-D to food from the shelves, or whether households are used to take pills privately. Probably no other population in Europe is as high-drugged on Vitamine D, than the Swedes, the conclusion of the author was.


In Germany that empty hole on shoulders called the german consumers rights minister wants exactly the opposite. She wants to limit any such supplements to menaingless, ineffevctive levels or better: ban them all completely.


She already prevented a simple food stoplight system ( narking the concern level of a product in greenl yellow and red, especially regarding sugar, calories, salt), making it more complicated again so that her buddies in the industry have more opportunities to hide disadvantageous food values in the small print.



What do you expect from a ministress whose only qualification is that she once won a little crown and became the seasonal wine queen in her town. Like fire protection should protect from fire, consumer protection should protect from consumers, is the motto of her reign.
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Of all the things I learned in Elementary School, I never would have thought that, in 2020, avoiding cooties would be the most important.
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