DCG Campaign: Stalingrad 1942 - Page 23

Fincuan · 08-05-08, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

I've seen the switcher too, but I assume you have to install it before installing 4.09. Maybe I'm wrong, I'll find it again...

I'm curious to see what Hunter has to say. :hmm:

P.S. Sorry, the coughing went over my head!

P.P.S. But what are they set to? Please don't tell me I have to ******* around with engine management...

At least with the modded version of the switcher you have to patch up and mod the game, then use the switcher. I've never used to other one so I don't know about that. The caughing was because IL2 mods are still a bit of a no-no in Subsim(and most other IL2 forums). In many places that policy has been revised to allow conversation on them but no links, but I haven't seen such a notification here yet.

In difficulty settings I think we have "No speedbar", "no outside view" and "no map path" switches off while the rest are on. So yes you have to manage the engine, but the good thing is it's completely automatic in the 109. The throttle is all you need.

onelifecrisis · 08-05-08, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

I've seen the switcher too, but I assume you have to install it before installing 4.09. Maybe I'm wrong, I'll find it again...

I'm curious to see what Hunter has to say. :hmm:

P.S. Sorry, the coughing went over my head!

P.P.S. But what are they set to? Please don't tell me I have to ******* around with engine management...

At least with the modded version of the switcher you have to patch up and mod the game, then use the switcher. I've never used to other one so I don't know about that. The caughing was because IL2 mods are still a bit of a no-no in Subsim(and most other IL2 forums). In many places that policy has been revised to allow conversation on them but no links, but I haven't seen such a notification here yet.

In difficulty settings I think we have "No speedbar", "no outside view" and "no map path" switches off while the rest are on. So yes you have to manage the engine, but the good thing is it's completely automatic in the 109. The throttle is all you need.

What, no padlocking? Why on earth...!?

Dowly · 08-05-08, 02:18 AM

As for the 4.09b1m and why we wont use it.

The patch was released months ago and me & Hunter talked about it in MSN shortly. We decided to wait for the full 4.09 patch before moving on from 4.08m. At the time, the full patch SHOULD have been only 2-4weeks away, but we're still waiting.

Also, now to think of it, does anyone know if DCG works with the new patch?

I have no objections to move onwards to 4.09b1m, from what I've read, it should be pretty stable. :hmm:

Dowly · 08-05-08, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

I've seen the switcher too, but I assume you have to install it before installing 4.09. Maybe I'm wrong, I'll find it again...

I'm curious to see what Hunter has to say. :hmm:

P.S. Sorry, the coughing went over my head!

P.P.S. But what are they set to? Please don't tell me I have to ******* around with engine management...

At least with the modded version of the switcher you have to patch up and mod the game, then use the switcher. I've never used to other one so I don't know about that. The caughing was because IL2 mods are still a bit of a no-no in Subsim(and most other IL2 forums). In many places that policy has been revised to allow conversation on them but no links, but I haven't seen such a notification here yet.

In difficulty settings I think we have "No speedbar", "no outside view" and "no map path" switches off while the rest are on. So yes you have to manage the engine, but the good thing is it's completely automatic in the 109. The throttle is all you need.

What, no padlocking? Why on earth...!?

We have padlocking, read it again "NO outside view turned off".

onelifecrisis · 08-05-08, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

I've seen the switcher too, but I assume you have to install it before installing 4.09. Maybe I'm wrong, I'll find it again...

I'm curious to see what Hunter has to say. :hmm:

P.S. Sorry, the coughing went over my head!

P.P.S. But what are they set to? Please don't tell me I have to ******* around with engine management...

At least with the modded version of the switcher you have to patch up and mod the game, then use the switcher. I've never used to other one so I don't know about that. The caughing was because IL2 mods are still a bit of a no-no in Subsim(and most other IL2 forums). In many places that policy has been revised to allow conversation on them but no links, but I haven't seen such a notification here yet.

In difficulty settings I think we have "No speedbar", "no outside view" and "no map path" switches off while the rest are on. So yes you have to manage the engine, but the good thing is it's completely automatic in the 109. The throttle is all you need.

What, no padlocking? Why on earth...!?

We have padlocking, read it again "NO outside view turned off".

Hrm, well, yeah there is that... though I'd prefer to stay in my cockpit... external padlock seems a bit "cheaty" to me... :p

I can't really understand why you allow external padlock but not internal.

Dowly · 08-05-08, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Hrm, well, yeah there is that... though I'd prefer to stay in my cockpit... external padlock seems a bit "cheaty" to me... :p

I can't really understand why you allow external padlock but not internal.

I fly my offline campaigns with locked pit, but the online campaign allows externals simply because we're not all used to fly without externals, landings, take offs etc. might prove to be too hard.

Fincuan · 08-05-08, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Also, now to think of it, does anyone know if DCG works with the new patch?

I have no objections to move onwards to 4.09b1m, from what I've read, it should be pretty stable. :hmm:

DCG should work with the 4.09 beta no problems, at least I haven't seen anyone say otherwise. I do know it works well offline. The core of 4.09 beta, the dlls, are indeed very stable. I've had one CTD with them, and that was probably because of a cloudmod I was experimenting with.

onelifecrisis · 08-05-08, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Also, now to think of it, does anyone know if DCG works with the new patch?

I'm using them both. No problems in Auto mode. I had problems in Full-Auto, but I was having those problems in 4.08 too.

onelifecrisis · 08-05-08, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I fly my offline campaigns with locked pit, but the online campaign allows externals simply because we're not all used to fly without externals, landings, take offs etc. might prove to be too hard.

I hear you, but for me the tasks of taking off and landing have always been a piece of cake in comparison to the task of trying to keep track of where an enemy plane is without padlock. I guess if I had an analogue hat it'd be easier, but I don't, and trying to use the mouse and joystick at the same time is like trying to do one of those physically "impossible" things (like pat your head and rub your tummy at the same time).

I guess there's no point debating it since realism settings can't be changed mid-campaign. I'm just surprised at the choice of settings.

onelifecrisis · 08-05-08, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

The caughing was because IL2 mods are still a bit of a no-no in Subsim(and most other IL2 forums). In many places that policy has been revised to allow conversation on them but no links, but I haven't seen such a notification here yet.

Er... why are IL2 mods taboo?

There's only two sticky's in this forum, and having glanced at them both I didn't see anything about IL2 mods being off-limits.

Edit: nm, I found the answers: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=127606

Fincuan · 08-05-08, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Er... why are IL2 mods taboo?

There's only two sticky's in this forum, and having glanced at them both I didn't see anything about IL2 mods being off-limits.

In this case it seems to be because of Subsim's general policy, since the modding is being done without permission from 1C/Maddox Games. At least I'm under that impression. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong so we can start a mod conversation

edit: I just saw the thread you found. That settles it.

onelifecrisis · 08-05-08, 03:52 AM

Totally OT, I just realised... I've started posting on a flight sim forum and my title says "Maverick" in it.

And now that I'm thinking that way, my avatar even looks a bit like...

Oh, bugger.

Schroeder · 08-05-08, 04:28 AM

Did I understand that correclty, you don't have any coolie-hat?

onelifecrisis · 08-05-08, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

Did I understand that correclty, you don't have any coolie-hat?

What's a coolie-hat?
I'm talking about the POV "hat" on the joystick. Mine is a basic 8-directional, non-analogue (what's the word for that?) hat. An analogue hat would be easier to use (assuming IL2 accepts them as a form of input for looking around).

HunterICX · 08-05-08, 05:18 AM

Mods & Patches,

the 4.09m Beta patch,
the main reason is that Public IL2 servers are still running 4.08m, I think that would change if the FULL 4.09m will ever be released. (I'm too wondering why it isnt out yet.)

Mods,
I do not mind that the word has been dropped from time to time, that some of you use it while joined my server I'm fine with that as long it doesnt interupt the gameplay(its hard to get around it nowadays), but I'm firmly against sharing links for the IL2 Mods, also I rather do not have complete discussions about them.
the big no-no here at subsim is mainly due that the 1Cgames/Oleg forbids it and ofcourse you require the IL2FB.EXE to be cracked in order for the mods to work.

HunterICX

08-05-08, 03:52 AM	#342
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	Totally OT, I just realised... I've started posting on a flight sim forum and my title says "Maverick" in it. And now that I'm thinking that way, my avatar even looks a bit like... Oh, bugger. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

08-05-08, 05:18 AM	#345
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Mods & Patches, the 4.09m Beta patch, the main reason is that Public IL2 servers are still running 4.08m, I think that would change if the FULL 4.09m will ever be released. (I'm too wondering why it isnt out yet.) Mods, I do not mind that the word has been dropped from time to time, that some of you use it while joined my server I'm fine with that as long it doesnt interupt the gameplay(its hard to get around it nowadays), but I'm firmly against sharing links for the IL2 Mods, also I rather do not have complete discussions about them. the big no-no here at subsim is mainly due that the 1Cgames/Oleg forbids it and ofcourse you require the IL2FB.EXE to be cracked in order for the mods to work. HunterICX __________________

08-05-08, 02:18 AM	#333
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,035 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	As for the 4.09b1m and why we wont use it. The patch was released months ago and me & Hunter talked about it in MSN shortly. We decided to wait for the full 4.09 patch before moving on from 4.08m. At the time, the full patch SHOULD have been only 2-4weeks away, but we're still waiting. Also, now to think of it, does anyone know if DCG works with the new patch? I have no objections to move onwards to 4.09b1m, from what I've read, it should be pretty stable. :hmm:

08-05-08, 04:28 AM	#343
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Did I understand that correclty, you don't have any coolie-hat?