seawolves - Page 2

Gizzmoe · 03-20-06, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerbo

Now Wulfmann exept of you'r saiing i didn't see Any official Note from UBI that X-1 IS as you claim the OFFICIAL ADD-ON so where can you show us THE proof of it ???

He didnÂ´t say that it is an official add-on. Reread what he wrote: "I am putting a flak vest on to say this but the Seawolves Mediterranean is the only "official" expansion package. That is; they are the only ones to have UBIsoft permission to make a payware add on to SH3."

Karl-Heinz Jaeger · 03-20-06, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Jeez Avon, you must have drilled those smileys forever to get them to smash their little heads against that wall in perfect unison. Thats discipline!!

*thinks to self*Glad I'm not serving on her boat!!

rogerbo · 03-20-06, 08:19 AM

Gizzmoe call me stupid but where is the exact line to draw between expansion and a Add-On ??

From Wiki

An expansion pack is an addition to an existing game. These add-ons mostly add new game areas, weapons, objects, and/or an extended storyline to a complete and already released game.

Add-ons are optional computer hardware or software modules that supplement or enhance the original unit they are adding on to. Also known as plugins, extensions, snap-ins, or various other vendor-specific names, these modules often have proprietary interfaces that are tightly held by the company that manufactured the original unit in order to prevent competing companies from producing add-ons

Gizzmoe · 03-20-06, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerbo

Gizzmoe call me stupid but where is the exact line to draw between expansion and a Add-On ??

Both are the same, why do you ask???

rogerbo · 03-20-06, 08:53 AM

If both are the same then where is the difference in Wolfmanns official Extension and my Add-On ???

Gizzmoe · 03-20-06, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerbo

If both are the same then where is the difference in Wolfmanns official Extension and my Add-On ???

I guess you still donÂ´t get it.

Ok, again: You said that Wulfmann claims that X-1 (Seewolves) is an official add-on/expansion pack. I said that heÂ´d didnÂ´t, he just said that Seawolves is the only "official" expansion/add-on, because they are the only ones to have UBIsoft permission to make a payware expansion/add-on to SH3.

mkubani · 03-20-06, 09:10 AM

X-1 is a parasite company.

Their quest for stealing people's work is not limited to SH 3 community only. In the past, they have stolen many free airplane skins for their addons for simulators called IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters.

No matter what they do now, there is no way I am buying ANYTHING from them EVER.

scandium · 03-20-06, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

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Originally Posted by rogerbo

If both are the same then where is the difference in Wolfmanns official Extension and my Add-On ???

I guess you still donÂ´t get it.

Ok, again: You said that Wulfmann claims that X-1 (Seewolves) is an official add-on/expansion pack. I said that heÂ´d didnÂ´t, he just said that Seawolves is the only "official" expansion/add-on, because they are the only ones to have UBIsoft permission to make a payware expansion/add-on to SH3.

The twists and turns you're making here to cut some fine distinction between the two is making me dizzy.

scandium · 03-20-06, 09:15 AM

By the way I wouldn't touch their stuff with a hand grenade.

scandium · 03-20-06, 09:22 AM

Gizzoe I'm talking about what you said here:

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He didnÂ´t say that it is an official add-on. Reread what he wrote: "I am putting a flak vest on to say this but the Seawolves Mediterranean is the only "official" expansion package. That is; they are the only ones to have UBIsoft permission to make a payware add on to SH3."

You say: He didnÂ´t say that it is an official add-on.

He said "... the Seawolves Mediterranean is the only "official" expansion package."

I don't think many of us here make the distinction that you seem to be making between an "official add-on" and an "official expansion package".

Gizzmoe · 03-20-06, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scandium

You say: He didnÂ´t say that it is an official add-on.

He said "... the Seawolves Mediterranean is the only "official" expansion package."

I don't think many of us here make the distinction that you seem to be making between an "official add-on" and an "official expansion package".

<GROAN!!!!>

Wulfmann also wrote "they are the only ones to have UBIsoft permission to make a payware add on to SH3." IÂ´ve never tried to make an distinction, all IÂ´ve said is that Wulfmann never said that Seawolves is a real official expansion pack, add-on or whatever you want to call it.

scandium · 03-20-06, 09:31 AM

Alright, whatever. Its still enough twisting and turning to make one's head spin all to point out that this loathesome parasite company supposedly has permission to peddle an expansion/add-on.

Gizzmoe · 03-20-06, 09:33 AM

Not "supposedly", they do have the permission. The proof is in the shops and on the Internet. You can buy their SH3 add-on since September 2005 in Germany and Switzerland, also soon in the UK.

scandium · 03-20-06, 09:36 AM

Interestingly my only reaction is to wonder how much of it is other people's code/artwork used without permission or compensation.

Alas, I'm not curious enough to buy it to find out though.

Wulfmann · 03-20-06, 11:29 AM

How can we fight over this? Let me count the ways.
No, I will be dead in the 30-40 years that may take!

Seawolves is not published by UBI. They have UBIâ€™s permission to make an expansion package to sell.
When last year someone tried to do this without permission UBI axed it. Not one person said these guys were wrong to modify copyrighted material without permission.

Now, I read I must prove they have permission.
I donâ€™t care if you donâ€™t believe it. Live in your fantasy, which is fine. After the first pack they are making this much much better one. How big of a genius does one have to be to figure UBI knows about this?

As for my â€œpluggingâ€ the new package, well, I am relaying what I see in the beta. Sorry if that happens to translate into the fun I am having.

As for all the people that hate X-1 you might be surprised to find they do not notice. How many here know others personally? How many have ever spoken on the phone?
I advise X-1 simply to improve the game in spite of my reservations of the last package I want this one to improve the overall SH3 and help broaden the base for SH4 so there will be a SH5.
For those that misunderstand my intentions and do your childish name calling please donâ€™t be too upset that I do not care.
Well, maybe Avon Lady. I am a little afraid of her!
:rotfl:

Wulfmann

03-20-06, 11:29 AM	#30
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	How can we fight over this? Let me count the ways. No, I will be dead in the 30-40 years that may take! Seawolves is not published by UBI. They have UBIâ€™s permission to make an expansion package to sell. When last year someone tried to do this without permission UBI axed it. Not one person said these guys were wrong to modify copyrighted material without permission. Now, I read I must prove they have permission. I donâ€™t care if you donâ€™t believe it. Live in your fantasy, which is fine. After the first pack they are making this much much better one. How big of a genius does one have to be to figure UBI knows about this? As for my â€œpluggingâ€ the new package, well, I am relaying what I see in the beta. Sorry if that happens to translate into the fun I am having. As for all the people that hate X-1 you might be surprised to find they do not notice. How many here know others personally? How many have ever spoken on the phone? I advise X-1 simply to improve the game in spite of my reservations of the last package I want this one to improve the overall SH3 and help broaden the base for SH4 so there will be a SH5. For those that misunderstand my intentions and do your childish name calling please donâ€™t be too upset that I do not care. Well, maybe Avon Lady. I am a little afraid of her! :rotfl: Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

03-20-06, 08:19 AM	#18
rogerbo Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Swiss Navy Posts: 103 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Gizzmoe call me stupid but where is the exact line to draw between expansion and a Add-On ?? From Wiki An expansion pack is an addition to an existing game. These add-ons mostly add new game areas, weapons, objects, and/or an extended storyline to a complete and already released game. Add-ons are optional computer hardware or software modules that supplement or enhance the original unit they are adding on to. Also known as plugins, extensions, snap-ins, or various other vendor-specific names, these modules often have proprietary interfaces that are tightly held by the company that manufactured the original unit in order to prevent competing companies from producing add-ons

03-20-06, 08:53 AM	#20
rogerbo Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Swiss Navy Posts: 103 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If both are the same then where is the difference in Wolfmanns official Extension and my Add-On ???

03-20-06, 09:10 AM	#22
mkubani Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 256 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	X-1 is a parasite company. Their quest for stealing people's work is not limited to SH 3 community only. In the past, they have stolen many free airplane skins for their addons for simulators called IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters. No matter what they do now, there is no way I am buying ANYTHING from them EVER.

03-20-06, 09:15 AM	#24
scandium Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,098 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	By the way I wouldn't touch their stuff with a hand grenade.

03-20-06, 09:31 AM	#27
scandium Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,098 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Alright, whatever. Its still enough twisting and turning to make one's head spin all to point out that this loathesome parasite company supposedly has permission to peddle an expansion/add-on.

03-20-06, 09:33 AM	#28
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Not "supposedly", they do have the permission. The proof is in the shops and on the Internet. You can buy their SH3 add-on since September 2005 in Germany and Switzerland, also soon in the UK.

03-20-06, 09:36 AM	#29
scandium Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,098 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Interestingly my only reaction is to wonder how much of it is other people's code/artwork used without permission or compensation. Alas, I'm not curious enough to buy it to find out though.