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Castout · 10-13-09, 05:56 PM

Well it's true imo. Nothing wrong with saying that.

Platapus · 10-13-09, 06:16 PM

I think it is important to differentiate between news reporting and commentary.

Fox news is not any worse or better than the other news reporting. There is a difference in the priority of stories but that makes fox news a good alternative news source, just like MSNBC.

The commentary on Fox news/MSNBC is a different story. A commentary is just like an OP-Ed feature of a newspaper... it is just one person opinion and their opinion was chosen by the media because it appeals (entertains?) its customers.

I really have a hard time believing that anyone with a brain in their heads truly turns to the commentary on Fox News/MSNBC as an unbiased and complete source of news. It is an opinion. It is someone's interpretation of the news. It is entertainment pure and simple.

So when people (the White House?) are slamming the media, I think it is important to differentiate between the news portions and the commentaries.

I will get my news from different sources, but I don't waste my time on the commentaries. I can make my own inferences thank you media.

Sailor Steve · 10-13-09, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Have to say I don't agree at all with that quote. Give me thought and reason any day even if I have to work hard and suffer for it, rather than being grounded in nonsense where I need not think.

It appears to me that Mr. Gailbraith was being sarcastic. I think he agrees with you.

Aramike · 10-13-09, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I think it is important to differentiate between news reporting and commentary.

Fox news is not any worse or better than the other news reporting. There is a difference in the priority of stories but that makes fox news a good alternative news source, just like MSNBC.

The commentary on Fox news/MSNBC is a different story. A commentary is just like an OP-Ed feature of a newspaper... it is just one person opinion and their opinion was chosen by the media because it appeals (entertains?) its customers.

I really have a hard time believing that anyone with a brain in their heads truly turns to the commentary on Fox News/MSNBC as an unbiased and complete source of news. It is an opinion. It is someone's interpretation of the news. It is entertainment pure and simple.

So when people (the White House?) are slamming the media, I think it is important to differentiate between the news portions and the commentaries.

I will get my news from different sources, but I don't waste my time on the commentaries. I can make my own inferences thank you media.

Exactly. And for the White House to single out an entire NEWS OUTLET says far more about the White House than Fox News.

Was it Nixon that sought to avoid the New York Times?

Stupid then, stupid now.

NeonSamurai · 10-13-09, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It appears to me that Mr. Gailbraith was being sarcastic. I think he agrees with you.

That is quite possible

, but that quote still makes me cringe.

XabbaRus · 10-14-09, 07:31 AM

Have to say I agree with Aramike et al.

I don't like Fox news but no administration can outwardly attack a particular news outlet because said news outlet has been critical of them, regardless whether it was spiteful or not.

You get into a situation as in Russia....

SteamWake · 10-19-09, 11:16 AM

This aint going away.

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The White House escalated its offensive against Fox News on Sunday by urging other news organizations to stop "following Fox" and instead join the administration's attempt to marginalize the channel.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ws-1925819282/

Marginilize the channel? Havent the libs been doing that for years already?

August · 10-19-09, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

This aint going away.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ws-1925819282/

Marginilize the channel? Havent the libs been doing that for years already?

They've been trying, but all they end up doing is giving Fox free advertising.

Zachstar · 10-19-09, 01:42 PM

While it needed to be said. The only thing the white house did was to help give that crap network more attention and make it a martyr.

Next day Glen Beck compares fox news to jews in the camps during the holocaust. Lovely network that fox news... Not!

And no there is absolutely zero chance of someday being a "ban" on Fox. Far as I am aware they semi follow FCC guidelines and laws.

The white house is just saying to sane people that Fox news has proven how far it is from "Fair and Balanced" for almost a decade now.

Zachstar · 10-19-09, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

REALLY?

How you ever watched MSNBC?

The brass at Fox News had it right when they said that the White House is incapable of distinguishing between news and commentary...

...either that, or they have a problem with commentary critical of them while being quite alright with the lineup of commentary shows supporting them, as is on MSNBC. Yet again its just more propaganda from this endlessly campaigning White House - and even you are buying into it, lock, stock, and barrel, without being fully informed of the issue on a first-hand basis.

If you are referring to the major political commentary shows "Countdown" "Rachel Maddow" Yes those shows are pretty far left. The general news is more or less like CNNs or ABCs These shows were created to counter shows like Hannity and O'Reilly (Tho he now seems more central than far right these days likely reason they got Beck in)

The issue with Fox news is there is less time on there being objective and neutral than any other network I have seen in this nation. When the news reels roll oftentimes it seems they are just trying to make an issue a political issue to emflame the viewers. Do other networks do the same? Sometimes during election season they become rats but with fox its like a 24 hour thing.

That is my opinion tho many people share such. The white house is free to say Fox News sucks BTW. They have no power to alter their programming but they have the right to say what they think of it.

mookiemookie · 10-19-09, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by August

They've been trying, but all they end up doing is giving Fox free advertising.

Pretty much. Now Fox News can use the "poor persecuted underdog...telling you the TRUTH that THEY don't want you to hear!" card and galvanize their hardcore fans.

They should have just left it alone.

SteamWake · 10-19-09, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

They should have just left it alone.

I have to agree, however evidently the White House believes they cannot afford to.

geetrue · 10-19-09, 02:08 PM

The real problem lies in the fact that Fox News is pissing off President Obama so much that it has come to this point in time.

Any polictical psychologist can see this frustration is coming from a common mental disorder that tends to blame someone else for your problems.

But to use your influence to shut down an entire news agency sounds anti-american to me, like an old black and white citzens cane movie or something.

Has anyone noticed Senator Kerry jumping into the news more often now that Mrs Clinton has firmly said she is not seeking the job of the president of the United States?

Kerry is acting like he might have another chance if Obama slips in the ratings game (whatever that is)

Zachstar · 10-19-09, 02:11 PM

He has no influence to "Shut Down" a news agency. Nobody does. He pointed out that fox news is crap. The Right wing will still use it as their primary source of subsistence. Little has changed.

SteamWake · 10-19-09, 02:14 PM

No influence eh?

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White House boasts: We 'control' news media

Communications chief offers shocking confession to foreign government

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113347

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10-13-09, 06:16 PM	#17
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I think it is important to differentiate between news reporting and commentary. Fox news is not any worse or better than the other news reporting. There is a difference in the priority of stories but that makes fox news a good alternative news source, just like MSNBC. The commentary on Fox news/MSNBC is a different story. A commentary is just like an OP-Ed feature of a newspaper... it is just one person opinion and their opinion was chosen by the media because it appeals (entertains?) its customers. I really have a hard time believing that anyone with a brain in their heads truly turns to the commentary on Fox News/MSNBC as an unbiased and complete source of news. It is an opinion. It is someone's interpretation of the news. It is entertainment pure and simple. So when people (the White House?) are slamming the media, I think it is important to differentiate between the news portions and the commentaries. I will get my news from different sources, but I don't waste my time on the commentaries. I can make my own inferences thank you media. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

10-14-09, 07:31 AM	#21
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Have to say I agree with Aramike et al. I don't like Fox news but no administration can outwardly attack a particular news outlet because said news outlet has been critical of them, regardless whether it was spiteful or not. You get into a situation as in Russia.... __________________

10-19-09, 01:42 PM	#24
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	While it needed to be said. The only thing the white house did was to help give that crap network more attention and make it a martyr. Next day Glen Beck compares fox news to jews in the camps during the holocaust. Lovely network that fox news... Not! And no there is absolutely zero chance of someday being a "ban" on Fox. Far as I am aware they semi follow FCC guidelines and laws. The white house is just saying to sane people that Fox news has proven how far it is from "Fair and Balanced" for almost a decade now. __________________

10-19-09, 02:08 PM	#28
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The real problem lies in the fact that Fox News is pissing off President Obama so much that it has come to this point in time. Any polictical psychologist can see this frustration is coming from a common mental disorder that tends to blame someone else for your problems. But to use your influence to shut down an entire news agency sounds anti-american to me, like an old black and white citzens cane movie or something. Has anyone noticed Senator Kerry jumping into the news more often now that Mrs Clinton has firmly said she is not seeking the job of the president of the United States? Kerry is acting like he might have another chance if Obama slips in the ratings game (whatever that is) __________________

10-19-09, 02:11 PM	#29
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	He has no influence to "Shut Down" a news agency. Nobody does. He pointed out that fox news is crap. The Right wing will still use it as their primary source of subsistence. Little has changed. __________________