The split-away crumbs of the hijacked swastika thread

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Well let's see here. I started off as a deck seaman (E1-E3) painting ships, worked my way up to Boatswain's Mate 2nd class (E5) onboard ships (FFGs and DDGs), got coxswain qualified and went to work piloting a SEAL team around on SWCC boat for a little over a year. Left that command and went to Italy to go to work for NATO and worked for one of the highest ranking Admirals in the US Navy during that tour as his personal yacht pilot (cake duty).

I got tired of moving all the time and my wife and I just wanted to settle down, so I got out for her more than I wanted to get out for myself. Now I go to school full time as a student on the MGIB benefits!

I dont want to get involved on your "internal" party politics but i would like to hear more about the " Boat Guys". Ive had the pleasure to be in board these boats below,but i suspect yours are even more powerful?

http://www.marinealutech.com/index1.htm

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

He's their Commander in Chief. And he's a Godsend compared to Clinton. Especially when dealing with national security secrets, and military unit budgeting. I was there and remember both men.

I don't consider putting the lives of my fellow shipmates or military brethren for that matter into harms way in Iraq a God send considering Bush is just using them as tools to fight a war HE wanted - not them!

[ASWnut101]

But Clinton wanted Serbia, too.....

Here is a link to some information about them.


This is the 11m type (Rhib) I piloted - not the bigger version (Mk V)

http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/swcc/abo_rib.asp

And these are the Navy rates (jobs) that work on them and utilize them

http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/sw...ourcerates.asp

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

I don't consider putting the lives of my fellow shipmates or military brethren for that matter into harms way in Iraq a God send considering Bush is just using them as tools to fight a war HE wanted - not them!

I consider a response against terror a Godsend. I'd rather have a President willing to confront the threat than keep it happening over and over again...all the while they gain strength and resolve. If the military ain't gonna do it...then who? When I joined the service, I knew I might be called into action. And like it or not, the American people reelected Bush. And like it or not, Al Qaeda's there. And the military are killing them over there. I prefer that arrangement. And I thank them for their service. Bush is only doing a job Clinton refused to do.

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

I consider a response against terror a Godsend. I'd rather have a President willing to confront the threat than keep it happening over and over again...all the while they gain strength and resolve. If the military ain't gonna do it...then who? When I joined the service, I knew I might be called into action. And like it or not, the American people reelected Bush. And like it or not, Al Qaeda's there. And the military are killing them over there. I prefer that arrangement. And I thank them for their service. Bush is only doing a job Clinton refused to do.

No Sea Demon! You still view Iraqis as terrorist and this is not the case. They are people just like you and me and had lives prior to the invasion Bush pushed for. Al Qaeda is the enemy and they are the ones that need to be eraticated from this planet. That is ALL I am going to say about that!

[Happy Times]

[quote=SubSerpent]Here is a link to some information about them.


This is the 11m type (Rhib) I piloted - not the bigger version (Mk V)

http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/swcc/abo_rib.asp

Thanks! Its 10 knots faster that the G-boat. That takes skill to handle that in all conditions, respect.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

No Sea Demon! You still view Iraqis as terrorist and this is not the case. They are people just like you and me and had lives prior to the invasion Bush pushed for. Al Qaeda is the enemy and they are the ones that need to be eraticated from this planet. That is ALL I am going to say about that!

Uh. No kidding. The military is not at war with Iraq's population. But with the terrorist insurgency. But nevertheless I think you should actually read the Iraq war resolution and see why we actually went there. It's rather enlightening. You might be surprised that there is actually no conspiracy theory here.

[quote=Happy Times]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Here is a link to some information about them.


This is the 11m type (Rhib) I piloted - not the bigger version (Mk V)

http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/swcc/abo_rib.asp

Thanks! Its 10 knots faster that the G-boat. That takes skill to handle that in all conditions, respect.

I thought it was the greatest job ever! Too bad a knee injury pulled me off them for good! This is when I got reassigned to pilot much slower and more political boats and Officer's around on. Which was fun too! Got to meet a lot interesting people.

[Bum]

[quote=SubSerpent]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

I thought it was the greatest job ever! Too bad a knee injury pulled me off them for good! This is when I got reassigned to pilot much slower and more political boats and Officer's around on. Which was fun too! Got to meet a lot interesting people.

Did you rag on them endlessly for supporting the President?

[quote=Stuka]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Did you rag on them endlessly for supporting the President?

Actually Clinton was president then. Some had their opinions about him and the others were just born to kill someone I think and didn't care who was president. I just drove the boat. I was like a SEAL team taxi driver. My nickname to the SEAL team was "Cabby" LOL!!! :rotfl: Their only wish in life was that ALL road ways were made of water. I think some of them might have retired and moved to Venice! I'm serious, those guys LOVE the water. They are like fish with arms and legs!

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

You certainly are doing nothing than killing support for the war and energizing the terrorists opposing our troops. Your statements show that those on the left have no ability to fight this war or face an enemy like Islamic terrorists. You lefties need to be kept as far away from the levers of government as possible.

As far as what the total plan for the war is....I don't know. And neither does the average citizen out there. I am not paid to make those assessments. Some things are on a need to know basis. But we do have people we have placed in these positions to do this job. Just because it's not a looney democrat like what you want, you shouldn't place our troops in danger by giving propaganda victories to our enemies. Let's allow those in the positions of military, intelligence, and national security do their jobs....shall we? I am paying attention. Lefties are doing their very best to kill the war effort at any cost. Just for a perverse hatred of GW Bush. All because he won election 2000. And this means a victorious and deadly Islamic enemy. An emboldened enemy like that could prove fatal. Bush ain't pulling the troops and I'm glad. I'm also gracious for their sacrifices. It's unfortunate that democrats have become Al Qaeda's best friend in regard to information warfare.

We don't have enough troops. Our troops are losing ground. Unit tours have been extended and those units on rest/training are having there times shortened.
We are so short handed over there female medics are now being used to support combat units.
General officers are disgruntled and Casey is afraid of being labled with General Westmorland.
We have no control in Anbar province which is 1/3 of Iraq. The troops we did have there were pulled and sent to Bagdad.
In the regions we do have troops present in the other 2/3 there are a number of towns where coalition forces dare not go.
General Ab. says we could win with unlimited support and unlimited time. Can you read inbetween the lines here?
Meanwhile Afganistan is calling for more troops because they can't keep up with the insurgency. Why? Because the troops that should be in Afganistan are in Iraq!
Now! Where are we going to get these troops from? The draft?
Now! Do we loose both or do we loose one?
What about these other countries we are going to invade to carry on this war on terror? How are we going to do that?
I know your standard answer. We pay people to figure that stuff out. Problem with that is they haven't done a very stellar job in the last five years have they?
And face it we aren't at war. If we were at war the country would be on a war footing which we aren't because if we were we would have a minimum of 400,000 troops in Iraq alone. Thats what the chief of staff told congress before Rumsfeld fired him.

And Bush calls Iraq a comma in history! Is this guy a little short in the reality department? Not to mention that comment insults those that have paid the ultimate sacrifice.

Originally Posted by bradclark1

We don't have enough troops. Our troops are losing ground. Unit tours have been extended and those units on rest/training are having there times shortened.
We are so short handed over there female medics are now being used to support combat units.
General officers are disgruntled and Casey is afraid of being labled with General Westmorland.
We have no control in Anbar province which is 1/3 of Iraq. The troops we did have there were pulled and sent to Bagdad.
In the regions we do have troops present in the other 2/3 there are a number of towns where coalition forces dare not go.
General Ab. says we could win with unlimited support and unlimited time. Can you read inbetween the lines here?
Meanwhile Afganistan is calling for more troops because they can't keep up with the insurgency. Why? Because the troops that should be in Afganistan are in Iraq!
Now! Where are we going to get these troops from? The draft?
Now! Do we loose both or do we loose one?
What about these other countries we are going to invade to carry on this war on terror? How are we going to do that?
I know your standard answer. We pay people to figure that stuff out. Problem with that is they haven't done a very stellar job in the last five years have they?
And face it we aren't at war. If we were at war the country would be on a war footing which we aren't because if we were we would have a minimum of 400,000 troops in Iraq alone. Thats what the chief of staff told congress before Rumsfeld fired him.

And Bush calls Iraq a comma in history! Is this guy a little short in the reality department? Not to mention that comment insults those that have paid the ultimate sacrifice.

I don't know what to say to this Brad! I think this might be the best and most accurate post I have seen on this entire forum! Bravo mate! Hit the nail on the head with that one! I'm sure Gonzo and his giant nose will be here soon to blow his snot all over it though! But I thought it was accurate and I totally agree. Great post!

[joea]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

I don't know what to say to this Brad! I think this might be the best and most accurate post I have seen on this entire forum! Bravo mate! Hit the nail on the head with that one! I'm sure Gonzo and his giant nose will be here soon to blow his snot all over it though! But I thought it was accurate and I totally agree. Great post!

Agree 100% as well, sorry I'm a ferriner and have no business commenting but still.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

We don't have enough troops. Our troops are losing ground. Unit tours have been extended and those units on rest/training are having there times shortened.
We are so short handed over there female medics are now being used to support combat units.
General officers are disgruntled and Casey is afraid of being labled with General Westmorland.
We have no control in Anbar province which is 1/3 of Iraq. The troops we did have there were pulled and sent to Bagdad.
In the regions we do have troops present in the other 2/3 there are a number of towns where coalition forces dare not go.
General Ab. says we could win with unlimited support and unlimited time. Can you read inbetween the lines here?
Meanwhile Afganistan is calling for more troops because they can't keep up with the insurgency. Why? Because the troops that should be in Afganistan are in Iraq!
Now! Where are we going to get these troops from? The draft?
Now! Do we loose both or do we loose one?
What about these other countries we are going to invade to carry on this war on terror? How are we going to do that?
I know your standard answer. We pay people to figure that stuff out. Problem with that is they haven't done a very stellar job in the last five years have they?
And face it we aren't at war. If we were at war the country would be on a war footing which we aren't because if we were we would have a minimum of 400,000 troops in Iraq alone. Thats what the chief of staff told congress before Rumsfeld fired him.

And Bush calls Iraq a comma in history! Is this guy a little short in the reality department? Not to mention that comment insults those that have paid the ultimate sacrifice.

Very well done, Brad. My thoughts exactly.