US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 129

Platapus · 02-19-17, 10:12 AM

People make poor decisions when they are scared or stressed.

Beware of any politician who encourages fear or stress on the citizenry.

Fear is a powerful weapon that history has demonstrated its effectiveness.

We need to make our decisions based on facts, not fears; evidence not emotion, reason not reaction.

As some old dead guy once said. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

u crank · 02-19-17, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Beware of any politician who encourages fear or stress on the citizenry.

Indeed. But.....media opposing him has the fear factor turned up to eleven.

vienna · 02-19-17, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Well, that is more or less my position as well.

I would also mention the style the "dossier" being writen and that the media covering it lies about details, for example status of it's alleged author.

Interesting. I am going to presume the "tldr" in the "quote" you referenced is your own comment about your conduct and not a direct quote of anything I posted, since I know I have not posted "tldr" about anything in this thread. What is interesting is you are admitting you are making comments about posts and links of which you have no real first hand knowledge or experience. This would explain a lot about your comments in previous posts and your continued "defense" of Russian involvement in US politics. I am now inclined to believe you probably haven't even really read the full dossier or other relevant documents at all and are merely parroting some "Reader's Digest" version you may have stumbled upon...

In your post, and in the post you agreed with, there are still no cites, no references, no expansion to support your claims, just more 'drive-by sniping' void of substance we are expected to believe just because you 'say so'; perhaps living in Russia has ingrained you with a natural tendency to accept the 'party line'...

Since you can not offer even one bit of detailed, verifiable, substantiation to bolster you claims, then I will accept them as they are: empty claims, not fact...

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vienna · 02-19-17, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

People make poor decisions when they are scared or stressed.

Beware of any politician who encourages fear or stress on the citizenry.

Fear is a powerful weapon that history has demonstrated its effectiveness.

We need to make our decisions based on facts, not fears; evidence not emotion, reason not reaction.

As some old dead guy once said. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

Are you sure we can't persuade you to run for President?...

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Platapus · 02-19-17, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

Are you sure we can't persuade you to run for President?...

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Nah The office is in a lousy neighbourhood.

August · 02-19-17, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

Since Trump is having a campaign rally in Florida today, I suppose we tax payers have to pay for his trip down there? He always bitched about Obama playing golf all the time and that we had to pay for him to go on all these vacations, now he goes to Florida every weekend costing a few million dollars each time, let alone the $60K day the Sheriffs dept pays in over time when he is there!

Wonder how much it costs NYC to protect his offices all the time? Plus believe the Govt will be renting an office in Trump Tower for security reasons, so Trump makes more money off of us!

So are you upset because he went there or that he bitched about Obama doing the same thing? How are you with Obama doing it in the first place?

Buddahaid · 02-19-17, 02:01 PM

The records will speak for themselves. I'm curious, August, if you would be defending Clinton as you seem to be defending Trump if she had won? I know you stated you wouldn't vote for either.

MaDef · 02-19-17, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-02-19/d...florida-rally/

I see that in your link, not sure what it refers to. The media in the U.S. hasn't mentioned anything (and I think they would considering....)

MaDef · 02-19-17, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by August

So are you upset because he went there or that he bitched about Obama doing the same thing? How are you with Obama doing it in the first place?

Did Trump go down there specifically for that rally? Or was it more like a side trip going to/from somewhere else.
If it's the former, someone needs to tell him his next election isn't for four years and get back to work.

Mr Quatro · 02-19-17, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

Did Trump go down there specifically for that rally? Or was it more like a side trip going to/from somewhere else.
If it's the former, someone needs to tell him his next election isn't for four years and get back to work.

Side trip I think due to the southern whitehouse is now in Florida which is okay with me ... Bush had his ranch outside of Waco and Obama had Hawaii once or twice a year and of course he had Michele and her mom and his two daughters to entertain, but still he got around a lot.

Time will tell at least he has found friendly audience's

Catfish · 02-19-17, 02:46 PM

“You know what uranium is, right? It’s this thing called nuclear weapons. And other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium. Including some bad things. But nobody talks about that.”

Oberon · 02-19-17, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

I see that in your link, not sure what it refers to. The media in the U.S. hasn't mentioned anything (and I think they would considering....)

http://nypost.com/2017/02/19/swedes-...terror-attack/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...edes/98129506/

https://www.cnet.com/news/trump-rall...rnet-repsonse/

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...asks-wait-what

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/tru...eden-incident/

Oberon · 02-19-17, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

“You know what uranium is, right? It’s this thing called nuclear weapons. And other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium. Including some bad things. But nobody talks about that.”

"We are here today to speak the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

mapuc · 02-19-17, 03:07 PM

Late last evening I read something in a Danish news paper, this paper had quoted the English news paper-There was not any link to a English version about this story.

The headlines said

Rumours in Washington: The coup is underway against Trump

"Have the US intelligence actually started to remove Trump from the presidency?"

It is the newspaper's Washington editor, Rhys Blakely, in an analysis report that it is such talk is in Washington right now.

There is talk in Washington about a 'soft coup', where the intelligence service will try to remove the president from office being continued to leak classified material, "writes Rhys Blakely include in its analysis.

This was just some part of the article I have translated through google translate.

When I read it I got mad.

The American people have via the American election system chosen Trump as their next President. The authorities, the Military and agencies in USA and abroad should respect this.

That's how I see it.

Markus

MaDef · 02-19-17, 03:18 PM

Thanks oberon, saved me a bit of time last link was helpful for context. His inner circle was probably the only ones to understand the reference as it is.

It time for him to start paying attention to what he says in front of a mic.
Could it be intentional?

02-19-17, 10:12 AM	#1921
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,000 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	People make poor decisions when they are scared or stressed. Beware of any politician who encourages fear or stress on the citizenry. Fear is a powerful weapon that history has demonstrated its effectiveness. We need to make our decisions based on facts, not fears; evidence not emotion, reason not reaction. As some old dead guy once said. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,578 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	The records will speak for themselves. I'm curious, August, if you would be defending Clinton as you seem to be defending Trump if she had won? I know you stated you wouldn't vote for either. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,940 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	“You know what uranium is, right? It’s this thing called nuclear weapons. And other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium. Including some bad things. But nobody talks about that.” __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

02-19-17, 03:07 PM	#1934
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 18,314 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Late last evening I read something in a Danish news paper, this paper had quoted the English news paper-There was not any link to a English version about this story. The headlines said Rumours in Washington: The coup is underway against Trump "Have the US intelligence actually started to remove Trump from the presidency?" It is the newspaper's Washington editor, Rhys Blakely, in an analysis report that it is such talk is in Washington right now. There is talk in Washington about a 'soft coup', where the intelligence service will try to remove the president from office being continued to leak classified material, "writes Rhys Blakely include in its analysis. This was just some part of the article I have translated through google translate. When I read it I got mad. The American people have via the American election system chosen Trump as their next President. The authorities, the Military and agencies in USA and abroad should respect this. That's how I see it. Markus Last edited by mapuc; 02-19-17 at 03:19 PM.

02-19-17, 03:18 PM	#1935
MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,046 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thanks oberon, saved me a bit of time last link was helpful for context. His inner circle was probably the only ones to understand the reference as it is. It time for him to start paying attention to what he says in front of a mic. Could it be intentional?