The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

Sadly, most people don't give a damn about the forces, so you can expect the games industry to follow the trend. It's disgusting really, but not surprising, given the anti-war sentiment most socialist liberals entertain these days.

To further derail the topic, anti-war does not mean anti-soldier. And your opinions are out of place here. Take it to GT if you want to spout that nonsense.

Back on topic now - it will be interesting to see if the pirates pull off a DDoS attack on the Ubi DRM servers once Assassin's Creed 2 is released. I've heard rumblings of such....I doubt SH5 will be a big enough release for them to do so, but AC2 will be. It will be a trial by fire on Ubi's master plan. Wonder how it will hold up.

[Steeltrap]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I salute you sir, but I do think you can agree that your fellow constituents are in fact bleeding this country broke.

Probably best to leave politics to other boards, no? I'm tempted to reply to that comment, but it won't help this thread (and I'm not from USA, although we are allies).

Cheers

[jwilliams]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

it will be interesting to see if the pirates pull off a DDoS attack on the Ubi DRM servers once Assassin's Creed 2 is released. I've heard rumblings of such....I doubt SH5 will be a big enough release for them to do so, but AC2 will be. It will be a trial by fire on Ubi's master plan. Wonder how it will hold up.

Yeah im sure Ubi will see a DDoS attack.... given all the hate towards Ubi's OSP. even steam got DDoS on it's launch and now most people love steam... i never had a prob with steam (offline mode FTW) but ima gonna Hate OSP with a passion

[kylania]

Originally Posted by Brag

In case you've missed it. This is a massive petition that may work. You can also make fairly long comments. When I signed it had over 1600 signatures

http://www.petitiononline.com/ew15dl94/petition.html

1800+ when I signed. I was really really looking forward to SH5, but I'll not spend my money on this product now, nor any ubisoft product. Doing so would only prove to the Ubisoft execs that they can pull this kind of crap with their customers and we'll PAY for it to be done to us.

[JScones]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Back on topic now - it will be interesting to see if the pirates pull off a DDoS attack on the Ubi DRM servers once Assassin's Creed 2 is released. I've heard rumblings of such....I doubt SH5 will be a big enough release for them to do so, but AC2 will be. It will be a trial by fire on Ubi's master plan. Wonder how it will hold up.

Ooh, ouch. That'll hurt if they pull it off.

[Brag]

Mookie, an interesting observation. The uproar of AC gamers and other biggies is huge. I thought Ubi was smart enough yo do a test on SH to see if it works. Nooooo! The marketing suits went big. The least dangerous for Ubi is the growing boycott.

The longer Ubi waits, the worse will be the train crash.

[Elder-Pirate]

Either get aboard or jump from the UBISOFT train.



Personally I got off at the last station for I do not want to be on a bad train wreck.

[maurader]

Just read an article about EA's Battlefield Bad Company 2.
This whole online DRM nonsense was made big by EA with their Spore release. (Actually online activations were extremely popular with high end application software way before EA's Spore).
Now everyone seems to be jumping on the "online" DRM methods.
I think EA is learned their lesson when Spore became the biggest pirated video game in history. (I dont know if it still holds that title).

At any rate, I like what EA is doing with the Battlefield Bad Company 2 release. (It actually mirrors the SimBin Racing games model).

If you buy a retail copy and have the DVD in the drive when you start the game, you dont have to activate or go online in order to play the single player game. It is a total offline experience.

If dont have the DVD in the drive, you can activate the game online and then play it without needing the disk in the drive. You can do this on up to 10 machines. Deactivations are possible by uninstalling the game.

To play online, you will need to activate it online (as above).


Games by SimBin (RACE07, GTR Evolution, Race On) are similar because during install you can select an offline version or a online version. The offline requires the DVD everytime you play (steam is not installed). The online version installs steam and has to be activated but allows online multiplayer.

I like these 2 methods because it gives the "customer" a choice and we are not bound by what the developer decides to do in the future.

I was kind of pushed away from EA when they started doing the online activation methods but I am glad they are moving in this direction. I almost passed up on Battlefield Bad Company 2 but now I guess EA is going to get my money now instead of Ubisoft.

Shame I would have prefered to get SH5 instead of Battlefield but I am going to give my money to a developer who actually listens to their customers.

[Brag]

Freedom of choice for the customer is definetely a benefit lacking with Ubisoft

[Von Manteuffel]

I've been away from Subsim for a long time. It's good to see it so healthy and with so many of the familiar "Kaleuns" still pitching. I hope you are all well and prospering.
I had ordered SH5, then cancelled. I do most of my game-playing when I travel, which I do a great deal. I even have a beefed up laptop to this end.
Some of the hotels I stay in don't have in-room internet access; many do, but charge exorbitant rates for it. So I'm either going to be unable to play the game at all, or I'm going to have to pay extra for the internet access which allows me to do so.

Sorry - not for me. It's Napoleon Total War from now on.

[Reece]

Originally Posted by Brag

Freedom of choice for the customer is definetely a benefit lacking with Ubisoft

And Ubisoft will be lacking a lot of money from us!! Since we're not spending money on SH5 we can buy something else like a good U-boat novel Brag, or is it Alexey!

[Brag]

Originally Posted by Reece

And Ubisoft will be lacking a lot of money from us!! Since we're not spending money on SH5 we can buy something else like a good U-boat novel Brag, or is it Alexey!

When it comes to names, I respond to several. The first is, hey You!. Russians call me Alexey Valerianovich, Chileans call me Don Alex. Subsimmers: You Bastard!

When it comes to novels, been trying to find a publisher for The Gelwitz Cipher, where the secret voyage of a XXi type plays a key role. So far, no takers.

[HKLE]

Ubi Marc obviously had enough. So he closed the relevant discussion at the UBI forum ....

I guess, UBI really gets a lot of heat for this crap. They start showing nerves ???

[Brag]

Originally Posted by HKLE

Ubi Marc obviously had enough. So he closed the relevant discussion at the UBI forum ....

I guess, UBI really gets a lot of heat for this crap. They start showing nerves ???

I lurked at the Ubi forum yesterday, the DRM bashing was in full swing. If I remember right, they had more anti DRM threads than our corralled Moo jobs

Ubi should be getting nervous. AC 2 (release 16 March) and Settlers have great opposition to DRM. Most press is against DRM. Christian Science Monitor is against. Petitions are flying everywhere. If this is a storm, we have only seen the beginning.

[tommyk]

I wonder how it feels to put so much energy into shv and see it strangled by some french managers from far far away with their dreams of the perfect DRM... I can only imagine the discussions about health-bars and such. the devs must have been excided by the game-designers suggestions... keeping the sim-parts while implementing speech-bubbles... I will instant-buy shv if I can only get rid of the always-online-drm...