All those not buying SH5 please move along.

[cherbert]

Can all the whiners who are not buying SH5 please leave and go back to the SH3 and SH4 forums you really are polluting the threads in here.

I bet half of you are hypocrites and will buy the game and are simply jumping on the anti-drm bandwagon.

Yes DRM sucks - but all I'm interested in at the moment is the excitement of what looks to be a an amazing leap forward in Submarine simulations and all I want to do is share that with like minded individuals who are as excited as I am. I always thought that was what subsim.com was all about.

The announced modding features virtually mean we are not a million miles from having what looks like a full SDK. Should we not be excited about this?

If you aren't buying it then move along - you don't need to be here.

Failing that can Neil create a forum called SH5 - Anti-DRM campaign. And leave the rest of us to look forward to this game in peace.

[Jaeger]

+1

very good post!

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by cherbert

All those not buying SH5 please move along.

[Letum]

We'r going nowhere until things change.

How about you head off the the Ubi-forums. Might be your kinda place.

[urfisch]

Uhh...an optimist!!! NICE! Rare species...may someone go, get the net and catch him?

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Letum

We'r going nowhere until things change.

How about you head off the the Ubi-forums. Might be your kinda place.

Yep, i ll stay here, untill i see things change.
The Platform is great the marketing seems to suck.

Grmpf

[Lt commander lare]

i agree with all the others we here at subsim are united in our stance on this subject NO Drm and we want offline option back on the table and we are staying put until we get some compensation for this and by the way neal is right the pirates are to blame for this as well as ubisoft but ubisoft also has the power to change things and they will or no buy

lt commander lare

Originally Posted by cherbert

Can all the whiners who are not buying SH5 please leave and go back to the SH3 and SH4 forums you really are polluting the threads in here.

I bet half of you are hypocrites and will buy the game and are simply jumping on the anti-drm bandwagon.

Yes DRM sucks - but all I'm interested in at the moment is the excitement of what looks to be a an amazing leap forward in Submarine simulations and all I want to do is share that with like minded individuals who are as excited as I am. I always thought that was what subsim.com was all about.

The announced modding features virtually mean we are not a million miles from having what looks like a full SDK. Should we not be excited about this?

If you aren't buying it then move along - you don't need to be here.

Failing that can Neil create a forum called SH5 - Anti-DRM campaign. And leave the rest of us to look forward to this game in peace.

No this is a community discussion forum and we are all free to voice our concerns. If I want to be censored I will join the Official Ubisoft Silent Hunter Forum

[Jaeger]

you guys forget that ubi isnt selling the game to subsim only. the casual gamer is the first target for earning money, and the casual gamer isnt interested in drm in or not. so, there is no need to complain about ubi, most of the players will like it, though drm is in.

conclusion: please stop dashing the forum with your complains. take one thread for this and stop changing each thread to a drm discussion. you are against it, most people arent.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Jaeger

you guys forget that ubi isnt selling the game to subsim only. the casual gamer is the first target for earning money, and the casual gamer isnt interested in drm in or not. so, there is no need to complain about ubi, most of the players will like it, though drm is in.

conclusion: please stop dashing the forum with your complains. take one thread for this and stop changing each thread to a drm discussion. you are against it, most people arent.

We'll see how happy the casual gamer is when the Ubisoft servers consistently boot him off, and every time he tries to reconnect he can't.

[Jaeger]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

We'll see how happy the casual gamer is when the Ubisoft servers consistently boot him off, and every time he tries to reconnect he can't.

dont confound online play and drm. drm only means, they will save your data on data servers. like cloud computing. office 2007 uses it, each email account is in the internet etc. cloud computing (means to save your data on internet servers) is savier than saving on your harddrive, which will be killed 2 times a year. cloud computing is the future, google has developed a whole system, which runs your software from internet. no hard disk needed anymore. and remember: they only get your ip, not your name! they can do market research (that is why they are doing this, piracy is an alibi here). remember google: they know everything about you!

drm brings one disadvantage: ubi knwos, when you are playing! but more good points: your data is save (data servers never are down, they have security servers (remember your emailaccount, when was it down last time?) and second: drm gives the possibility to update your game and to have online rankings. this is a main point the casual gamer is looking for!

Originally Posted by Jaeger

dont confound online play and drm. drm only means, they will save your data on data servers. like cloud computing. office 2007 uses it, each email account is in the internet etc. cloud computing (means to save your data on internet servers) is savier than saving on your harddrive, which will be killed 2 times a year. cloud computing is the future, google has developed a whole system, which runs your software from internet. no hard disk needed anymore. and remember: they only get your ip, not your name! they can do market research (that is why they are doing this, piracy is an alibi here). remember google: they know everything about you!

drm brings one disadvantage: ubi knwos, when you are playing! but more good points: your data is save (data servers never are down, they have security servers (remember your emailaccount, when was it down last time?) and second: drm gives the possibility to update your game and to have online rankings. this is a main point the casual gamer is looking for!

Can I ask ? Do you actually see what a long peace of crap your speech is..? I just don't know from which end should I begin bashing it.. Luckily to you I'm just too lazy for this atm.. But one I can say about your so frequently mentioned casual player. I assume this should be a 12-year old shoot'em'up arcade style kid who shall by mistake intall SH5 too see what it's all about and after 10 min of play he'll become bored to death and will get back to his good old cs or quake or whatever.. Casual player..my arse. Because Simulator and it's nature isn't ment to be dedicated for casual players at all but for those who became enough mature for it. However these ppl are way more above your casual player mentioned.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Jaeger

dont confound online play and drm. drm only means, they will save your data on data servers. like cloud computing. office 2007 uses it, each email account is in the internet etc. cloud computing (means to save your data on internet servers) is savier than saving on your harddrive, which will be killed 2 times a year. cloud computing is the future, google has developed a whole system, which runs your software from internet. no hard disk needed anymore. and remember: they only get your ip, not your name! they can do market research (that is why they are doing this, piracy is an alibi here). remember google: they know everything about you!

Originally Posted by Richard Stallman

"[Cloud computing is] stupidity. It's worse than stupidity: it's a marketing hype campaign,"

"Somebody is saying this is inevitable – and whenever you hear somebody saying that, it's very likely to be a set of businesses campaigning to make it true."

[piri_reis]

Ah
another blind believer, go on and see it as you please mate.

Originally Posted by Jaeger

dont confound online play and drm. drm only means, they will save your data on data servers. like cloud computing. office 2007 uses it, each email account is in the internet etc. cloud computing (means to save your data on internet servers) is savier than saving on your harddrive, which will be killed 2 times a year. cloud computing is the future, google has developed a whole system, which runs your software from internet. no hard disk needed anymore. and remember: they only get your ip, not your name! they can do market research (that is why they are doing this, piracy is an alibi here). remember google: they know everything about you!

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by Jaeger

you guys forget that ubi isnt selling the game to subsim only. the casual gamer is the first target for earning money, and the casual gamer isnt interested in drm in or not. so, there is no need to complain about ubi, most of the players will like it, though drm is in.

conclusion: please stop dashing the forum with your complains. take one thread for this and stop changing each thread to a drm discussion. you are against it, most people arent.

How about no!

This is a discussion board on Subsim for Subsim members and currently 55% of those members are waiting for the DRM to be removed before buying it.

Consequently, only 17% of Subsim members state that the DRM does not bother them.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but one thing that is not tolerated is forceful imposing of those opinions. To you and the OP, you can have your own thoughts on the majority of Subsim members but you can't tell them to Shut Up and Get out.