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08-24-17, 09:17 AM | #136 |
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He did it, no doubt.
Had he instantly reported it, it might have been passed as an accident, certainly depending on evidence found. But dismembering and adding a weight, scuttling the sub, telling different stories overtime, this covering-up makes an accident implausible. It seems he had to hide something, and while we can only guess what it is, there are not so much plausible foregoing events to imagine
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08-24-17, 10:45 AM | #137 |
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German media says that he's now charged with murder and not manslaughter anymore.
(in German) http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/kim...klage-101.html
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08-24-17, 10:53 AM | #138 | |
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Heard a expert on Danish Justice, saying it ain't enough that they have found the torso, blood inside his sub. The police and the prosecutor has to prove it was him. Then this woman mentioned som old case where the perpetrator had confessed and after removed this or the police had found enough evidence, but the criminal was set free by the court. In my head it's no doubt Peter did this- The big question is-Could he have an evil alter ego-Like Mr. Jekyll and Hyde ? If so, could Peter be unavare of his alter ego ? This is of course a job for the psychiatrist. Markus |
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08-24-17, 11:02 AM | #139 | |
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08-24-17, 11:06 AM | #140 |
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The charges have been upgraded to murder
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7910671.html
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08-24-17, 11:32 AM | #141 |
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Danish police are going to add additional charge against Peter. "Improper handling of human remains"
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08-24-17, 11:53 AM | #142 |
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http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/muligt-fu...rettet/6790935
http://politiken.dk/indland/art60805...mulig-kropsdel Possibly, a body part has been found near Falsterbo in Sweden. Danish police notified about it. No more news about that. http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/torso-var...e-ting/6790284 The torso was nude, so the clothes must be flowing in the water somewhere... http://www.bt.dk/krimi/avis-raket-ma...sikerede-taesk Rumour goes that PM is now in solitary in the prison. Because of hierarchy in prisons, it's probably PM himself who wanted to be there, because any criminal who have molested, damaged or killed any woman or child is the lowest of the lowest, and though he isn't convicted in a trial yet, everybody in there knows who he is by now. http://www.bt.dk/krimi/nyt-i-ubaadsm...gslet-for-drab On september 5th, when the next trial hearing will take place, the prosecutor will ask to have PM examined by a psychologist plus he/she will demand the charge of molesting the body to be added to the charge. For that alone, it's up to 6 months in jail. If he is convicted of manslaughter, it's up to 8 years in prison, and if it's murder - according to this: https://danskelove.dk/straffeloven/237 it will be from 5 years to life. A lifesentence in Denmark is usually up to 16 years, IIRC. Only hard cases, it's really life. But even then, it's hard. We once had a police murderer, who stayed in prison for 33 years. Back in 2000, a man, who once murdered his own mother, when he lived in the USA, came back to Denmark, got a relationship with a woman, whom he later killed along with her children. I was back in 2000 one of those who had to search for the bones of those 3 persons. Peter Lundin was his name. Even though the bodies were never found, the police presented enough evidence in court, so he was convicted to life in prison. So it could be possible for the court to convict PM for this, if they have enough evidence to convince the court. Now some of you speak of a jury. I'm not sure there will be a jury for this case, or if it will be 3 judges. I'm not that much into Danish law system, but I don't think that juries are used that much in Denmark. I think that several judges are more common. But I could ask some friends who study law to ask around, what's more common, plus I know a lawyer to ask too. Anyway, as several of you have written. The fact that the body is dismembered/molested, and the fact that the sub went down, and the fact that he lied and changed explanation, and the fact that he didn't call for help, all that makes it impossible to believe that it indeed was an accident. If - and it's a BIG IF - it was an accident and that he went into panic and wanted to bury her at sea, then why the .... did he cut her up? Temporaily insanity? And why didn't he tell about that fact from the beginning? The calm way he was answering the questions from reporters when he got ashore and brought to the police doesn't show a man in panic. I'm really looking forward to read the result from the psycologist and what the final verdict will be. Hopefully, the full truth will be revealed at that time. Because now, there are really too many open questions, which need to be answered.....
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08-24-17, 12:14 PM | #143 |
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What begins to emerge is the portrait of a particularly gruesome monster.... I fear this gets sadder before it gets better.
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08-24-17, 12:56 PM | #144 |
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What happens to his submarine? What if someone buys it at auction?
What is a one of kind submarine worth?
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08-24-17, 01:18 PM | #145 |
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The submarine is entered as evidence for now. I would believe it would be scrapped eventually.
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08-24-17, 01:24 PM | #146 |
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Isn't it technically still his property? Just because someone goes to jail, doesn't mean they're stripped of their possessions.
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08-24-17, 01:30 PM | #147 | |
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Will it, when the police it done with, it be sold on some auction ? If so, who's going to buy a sub, where a horrible crime have been.... Markus |
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08-24-17, 01:31 PM | #148 |
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Agreed. After first trial there will likely be appeal or two and submarine will almost certainly remain in evidence until case is closed. I'm quite confident that Danish government will take Nautilus in its possesssion and will silently scrap it to avoid any souvenir nonsense.
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08-24-17, 01:37 PM | #149 |
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I don't know about Danish law but in Finland court can condemn property (without compensation) if it has been used in commitment of crime or acquired by criminal means or with illicit gains. I'm surprised if there are no similar provisions in Danish law books.
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08-24-17, 02:01 PM | #150 |
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Thus my thoughts it will be scrapped.
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