[REL] Trigger Maru Overhauled Update BH

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by E5USMC

I just got back in the SH4 after a few years away. I have it loaded on my laptop for over 10 years and have played it with TMO since it came out.

I know have a super nice desktop that I decided to load it on. I tired Fall of the Rising Sun but could never get past the CTD I was constantly getting when starting the campaign missions from outside the base so I moved back to TMO Update BH and so far so good. I took all the add on mods in TMO and installed them as well. It took me a few adjustments to make it happy but all seems well so far. I’d do have a few questions on somethings I remember that I’m not seeing

welcome back to SH4. sorry you had troubles with FOTRSU as it is a great mega mod. Are you running with a 4GB memory enabler, such as Large Address Aware? you will need it for mods like FOTRSU as well as TMO_BH.

Originally Posted by E5USMC

1. Wasn’t there a mod that installed the historic shipping lanes for the pacific ?

you are remembering Run Silent Run Deep (RSRD). it was an add-on to Stock, GFO, as well as the original TMO (2.5 vs BH). RSRD reconfiged the shipping routes to mimic the actual IJN routes. Not sure it is compatible with TMO_BH. send a PM to Bubblehead1980 and ask him.

Originally Posted by E5USMC

2. I thought I remembered in the map when you zoomed in close enough to your boat you got a circle with marked distances in 100 yard increments. Was that removed.

you are remembering the 3000 meter bearing plotter. they are still around and available for d/l in the MODS forum.

Originally Posted by E5USMC

3. Is there any fix if running 4k to make the gauges, dials, buttons, etc… bigger to be readable or is it best to just go back to 1980 setting

i am sure there is a mod for larger gauges. what i am not sure is whether it is compatible with TMO_BH. you have to read the support doc for TMO_BH on page 1 of that thread and then read the support doc of the gauge mod. you might want to check out jimimadrid's recent user interface mods. they change a lot of the menu graphics. there may be one that shows larger gauges.

Originally Posted by E5USMC

Also, I was a member a long time back but no longer had the email to get my old sign in back so that’s why I have a new name……was ASO544

send a PM to Onkel Neal.

Thanks !!![/QUOTE]

[wildvanisle]

Anyone got tips to prevent CTDs in this mod? They seem to happen somewhat randomly, whether im on the Navmap at high time compression or just evading some DDs after attacking a convoy at 1x time compression.

SH4:Uboat Missions is installed outside of program files and I've used LAA to allow the program to use more memory. Thanks

[Aktungbby]

wildvanisle! & E5USMC!

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by wildvanisle

Anyone got tips to prevent CTDs in this mod? They seem to happen somewhat randomly, whether im on the Navmap at high time compression or just evading some DDs after attacking a convoy at 1x time compression.

SH4:Uboat Missions is installed outside of program files and I've used LAA to allow the program to use more memory. Thanks

many of us suffer from these, seemingly random, CTD's when playing TMO_BH.

try turning off Event Camera. that may help.
do you know where that option is?

[wildvanisle]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

many of us suffer from these, seemingly random, CTD's when playing TMO_BH.

try turning off Event Camera. that may help.
do you know where that option is?

Yes, it is off. I play at 100% realism so event cam, external cam etc are all off. Thanks for your help though!

[Bartholomew Roberts]

I play with TMO Update BH V2.0 +OTC for TMO 2.5 .
Started prewar S18 Career. Get exersice mission, went there , target ship do not show up. I went further south to the shore, nothing there
Find the mission file, it shows the target loops waypoints and does not dissappear. So where is the ship?

[Captain Wreckless]

Originally Posted by Bartholomew Roberts

I play with TMO Update BH V2.0 +OTC for TMO 2.5 .
Started prewar S18 Career. Get exersice mission, went there , target ship do not show up. I went further south to the shore, nothing there
Find the mission file, it shows the target loops waypoints and does not dissappear. So where is the ship?

I've played that mission several times and the Marblehead has never shown up. Just cruise around in the area, it will complete.



CW

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Bartholomew Roberts

I play with TMO Update BH V2.0 +OTC for TMO 2.5 .
Started prewar S18 Career. Get exersice mission, went there , target ship do not show up. I went further south to the shore, nothing there
Find the mission file, it shows the target loops waypoints and does not dissappear. So where is the ship?

Bart,

although the directions lead one to believe that contact with the target must be made AND the target ship appears in the mission specs, for some unknown reason it does not appear in the game.

as C.Wreckless posted: just cruise around a while and the objective will complete.

that is because there are only two objectives for this mission and they are both patrol-time objectives. one in Lingayen Gulf and the other in the Gulf of Tonkin. the mission directive-text gets one focused on playing war games with the two friendlies but in reality it is a 72 hour area patrol.

personally, i have looked at the mission and cannot figure out why the stupid ship does not appear. if i do i will post the solution.

p.s. i reviewed this mission (again) and, in an effort to find the problem, i made two adjustments. i added an RGG in the same approximate area as the original Group of Two and i changed the Start Date parm of the mission to 1/1/1938. The RGG was added to see if it would react differently than the Group.

when the mission was executed, the Group spawned as expected but was not detectable. THAT is unexplainable at this time.

the RGG, which should have spawned when the Group spawned, did not spawn until we had been on patrol in the area for a while. since this was unexpected, it was not tracked. the RGG moved around according to its definition but, like the Group, it remained undetectable.

the term undetectable means that the crew did not detect their presence when they were in close proximity to our boat. no 'contact' warnings were announced.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by Bartholomew Roberts

I play with TMO Update BH V2.0 +OTC for TMO 2.5 .
Started prewar S18 Career. Get exersice mission, went there , target ship do not show up. I went further south to the shore, nothing there
Find the mission file, it shows the target loops waypoints and does not dissappear. So where is the ship?

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Originally Posted by Captain Wreckless

I've played that mission several times and the Marblehead has never shown up. Just cruise around in the area, it will complete.

Possible clue there in the Group header, where it has "EvolveFromEntryDate=true". What that does is it puts the ship wherever it would be on the date your boat enters the game. Not seen, but surmised is the last Waypoint (6??). It looks like it is set to Loop to Waypoint 1, correct? Make certain it is set to 100% of the time. If it is set below 100%, the group will take off across the ocean in a straight line beyond Waypoint 1. Also, in the TMO files, the CLOmaha is not a "complete" ship, and relies on the Stock game's binary files, so look in your Sea NCL_Omaha folder and make certain all of the files are there. You should also make certain there is enough space between the Omaha and its escort ship, allowing at least 1000 yards between them, because the escort will do patrolling "knuckles", and it will need plenty of room to avoid the Omaha going into collision avoidance and then neither of them maintaining formation. You can also delete the lines SecondsUntilReport=-21.501501, HighPrioContact=false, TacticalUnit=false, AvailStartDate=19380101, AvailEndDate=194531, since they are not neeeded by the game. Anytime you run the Mission Editor though, it will put those last four lines back in.

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

Bart,

although the directions lead one to believe that contact with the target must be made AND the target ship appears in the mission specs, for some unknown reason it does not appear in the game.

as C.Wreckless posted: just cruise around a while and the objective will complete.

that is because there are only two objectives for this mission and they are both patrol-time objectives. one in Lingayen Gulf and the other in the Gulf of Tonkin. the mission directive-text gets one focused on playing war games with the two friendlies but in reality it is a 72 hour area patrol.

personally, i have looked at the mission and cannot figure out why the stupid ship does not appear. if i do i will post the solution.

p.s. i reviewed this mission (again) and, in an effort to find the problem, i made two adjustments. i added an RGG in the same approximate area as the original Group of Two and i changed the Start Date parm of the mission to 1/1/1938. The RGG was added to see if it would react differently than the Group.

when the mission was executed, the Group spawned as expected but was not detectable. THAT is unexplainable at this time.

the RGG, which should have spawned when the Group spawned, did not spawn until we had been on patrol in the area for a while. since this was unexpected, it was not tracked. the RGG moved around according to its definition but, like the Group, it remained undetectable.

the term undetectable means that the crew did not detect their presence when they were in close proximity to our boat. no 'contact' warnings were announced.

The ship is set to Neutral by default with the "Side=0" line, or 'friendly' with a "1", but you're both neutral prior to 19411207. The game should report sonar or radar contacts (if appropriate) and ship spotted, but once spotted, will not report sonar contact unless you submerge and can no longer "see" the ship. You guys could also try setting the ship to report its position after every 30 minutes, and try to see what it is doing...

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by wildvanisle

Anyone got tips to prevent CTDs in this mod? They seem to happen somewhat randomly, whether im on the Navmap at high time compression or just evading some DDs after attacking a convoy at 1x time compression.

SH4:Uboat Missions is installed outside of program files and I've used LAA to allow the program to use more memory. Thanks

Did you delete the Save folder (C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4) prior to starting the TMO-modded game? If not, you have a mix of whatever you had before, and TMO_BH. You could also use MultiSH4v1.5 and create a new Save folder with your own 3-character name.