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12-26-18, 10:56 PM | #6196 |
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That's just the point. Trump is not declaring victory in Afghanistan. Quite the opposite, he is giving up on the objective of nation building, which was not even why we went over there in the first place. Our original objective of rooting out AQ from their training camps was accomplished long ago and now almost two decades later we're still there futilely trying to reshape an unwilling people into our own political image. At what point do we decide we're just not going to be able to pull it off? 30 years? 50? 100? Just don't expect a general to answer that, because it's not how they think. They'll tell you we keep at it for whatever it takes for as long as it takes, and all the blood and death that entails will in their mind will be increasing justification to keep going. In Afghanistan's case it's been 20 years of holding back the tide with no end in sight. No corner has been turned or is there even any light at the end of the tunnel (to quote some famous generals) in Afghanistan so maybe Trump is right and it's time to get off the merry-go-round so to speak.
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12-27-18, 02:59 AM | #6197 | |
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I guess it is the best, we stop the discussion here. I guess we both can agree on that we hardly agree on anything with respect to politics.
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12-27-18, 02:36 PM | #6198 |
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Well, here we go. Trump visits our Troops in Iraq, and now the Iraqi Govt wants our troops out. Plus the Iranian militias in Iraq said if we don't leave on our own, they will use other means to make us leave. Sounds like a threat, so we will see how Trump responds.
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12-27-18, 02:39 PM | #6199 |
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And then there's the possibility that someone screwed up and showed the Seal Team 5 faces publicly. (the guys on Trump's twitter vid with the NVGs on etc.), tho this is unconfirmed.
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12-27-18, 02:52 PM | #6200 |
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I saw that Dowly, will be interesting to see how this turns out.
This from Newsweek about the photo op with Seal Team 5. Unreal. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...-video-1272102
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12-27-18, 07:18 PM | #6201 |
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You have to be kidding. Nobody forced the Seals to have their pictures taken, nor would the Seal team commander ever allow it if there was an issue. I predict this latest bit of fake news will amount to nothing as usual.
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12-27-18, 07:22 PM | #6202 | |
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12-27-18, 08:11 PM | #6203 | |
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Then I thought maybe NBC was working for the Secret Service or the CIA to keep it secret. Wrong again I said to my lame brain They just wanted to share their dislike for the POTUS
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12-27-18, 10:55 PM | #6204 | |
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And anyone else who doesn't agree with them apparently. Another thing they are complaining about is those young troops with the maga hats. Can you imagine that they are actually are trying to get them in trouble with the military for that?
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12-28-18, 06:06 AM | #6205 |
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A ray of light on the dark horizon - so there is still hope and salvation.
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12-28-18, 10:34 AM | #6206 |
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One of the two leftiest daily mainstream newspapers in Germany hails one of the leftiest politicians in the US.
Quelle surprise. After Clinton I thought it could not get worse, and so came Bush jr. After Bush i though it could not get worse, and then came Obama. After Obama I thought it could not get worse, and then came Trump. I thought so far it could not get worse after Trump, but the Democrats have quite some promising names in their quiver. I just slammed two Democrat and two Republican "presidents". Shall nobody say I am biased or unfair. I slam them all. Maybe that is the true meaning of Islam.
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12-28-18, 12:51 PM | #6207 | |
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Trump isn't docile enough to be a republican, he's a man of the "working" people.
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12-28-18, 03:12 PM | #6208 |
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a bright spot in our western world. She has the power to extinguish this parasitic, assiocial, social-racking and treasonous demagogue named Donald Trump and to bring his criminal family to the penal system.
By the way - anyone who actively participates in treason, as by supporting the traitor as such, is equally punishable. Donald Trump is a traitor to the nation and should be punished accordingly, as are his fellow Crimean fellows - they are all guilty of absolute betrayal. Last edited by Bleiente; 12-28-18 at 03:32 PM. |
12-28-18, 03:54 PM | #6209 | |
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Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is a media darling for all the wrong reasons. The self identifying Socialist has a very poor grasp of how the political system she is about to enter works and despite having a degree in economics seems to know little about that either. But hey not to worry. That hasn't stopped others from saying and doing stupid things as well. The left wing media feeds on people like her without ever asking themselves why. The answer of course is ... ratings. I wish the young lady all the luck in the world. Where she's going she's gonna need it.
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And should something happen on their way there, the world knows automatically - it was the criminal Trump with his best buddy Putin. |
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