Why Mexicans immigrate to the US - Page 2

Wolferz · 02-08-14, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Phyrrus

They counted on their fingers. Hard to believe, I know.

Nothing wrong with using the free Abacus we're given.

If these folks are jamming you in the backside... shop elsewhere.

Sailor Steve · 02-07-14, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Phyrrus

Put a big machine gun on your southern border and problem solved.

You do know that border is 1,954 miles (3,145 km) long, and almost all of it barren desert? That's a lot of ground to cover for "a big machine gun".

Phyrrus · 02-08-14, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

You do know that border is 1,954 miles (3,145 km) long, and almost all of it barren desert? That's a lot of ground to cover for "a big machine gun".

Lol Steve, that was just a figure of speech

Put two on every mile, still way cheaper for US citizens than treating all the problems that occur on behalf of immigration. 3908 machineguns + 2 operators for each's total cost would be just 18% of your annual military spending. Not taking into account the USA goverment buget allocated for treating social problems, like immigration and it's consequences, like high criminality. It would be still way cheaper for you... But as I said before: who would clean the public toilets then?

Phyrrus · 02-08-14, 02:58 AM

Ok, lets have a fresh start here, cuz many of you may think of me as a Nazi or KuKluxKan member of something - and I would't want to make a bad reputation on the first day joining this fine community, would I?

But I
I am neither, I am an immigrant.

Immigrants are always two types. First ones are those who are really in need, they really want to do better in their life for themselves and their families. Economical or political immigrants playing fair for survival. (I like to count myself among them, but who knows maybe I'm wrong

The second type are the parasites, the scum of their own countries, those who cant take up the fight in their own homelands, those who are too lazy to make a decent living in places where they could make a living if they'd be just a bit mre persistent, those that want to live always on the back of others anywhere they may be. They are always first in queue wherever something is for free, in their native country as well as in the country they emmigrated. And besid that, they are alway demanding for special treatment, always loudly repeating worsd like "discrimination". (this is the FIRST and only word that gipsies learn). They are a burden for any country. These people make roughy 80% of all the immigrants. I am not stereotypi..zing ( is that correct?) here, i speak from experience and statistics.

Why does nobody talks about chinese immigrants (at least not so often)? Coz they adapt to local customs (most of the time), they are HARD WORKING people, they always have something to offer, and they are a wellcome addition to any local economy. Right?
Ok, what people know about romanian and bulgarian immigrants in tha UK or mexicans in the US? That wherever they go, first thing is that they bulid their own maffia network, their criminal supply chains and start exploiting western countries. They are always the first to demand social assistance in form of money, housing, transportation and such, but they never give anything in exchange to their host country excep from anincreased criminality rate.

I have no problem with the first ones, but the second type is a plague that has to be treated.
I think this problem exceeds de shere immigration problem, its about overpopulation, and about that half of this overpopulated crowd is not willing to give its apport to the wellbeing of all, but want to live and thrive on the neck of others.
On a side note: I count bankers, wall street sharks, high wage managers and other imperialists among the plague too, but that is another topic I think...

I go do some work now, cuz some of us have to work sundays and saturdays as well...

Phyrrus over and out.

Onkel Neal · 02-08-14, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Phyrrus

Immigrants are always two types. First ones are those who are really in need, they really want to do better in their life for themselves and their families. Economical or political immigrants playing fair for survival. (I like to count myself among them, but who knows maybe I'm wrong

The second type are the parasites, the scum of their own countries, those who cant take up the fight in their own homelands, those who are too lazy to make a decent living in places where they could make a living if they'd be just a bit mre persistent, those that want to live always on the back of others anywhere they may be. They are always first in queue wherever something is for free, in their native country as well as in the country they emmigrated. And besid that, they are alway demanding for special treatment, always loudly repeating worsd like "discrimination". (this is the FIRST and only word that gipsies learn). They are a burden for any country. These people make roughy 80% of all the immigrants. I am not stereotypi..zing ( is that correct?) here, i speak from experience and statistics.

You are probably right. I haven't taken part in any studies, but in my brief time as a school teacher in Pasadena, which is becoming Little Mexico in Houston, I have to agree with some of your assumptions. The majority of students are "needy" and take part in free breakfast and lunches. It's not 20% of the students qualify for free subsidies, it's 100%. And guess what--the schools do not want to know their immigration status. We are basically educating illegal immigrants and feeding them.

As a native Texan, I like Mexicans and their food. I've worked with them in the hot sun, I've had a Mexican-American girlfriend or two, and my best mate is a second gen Tex-Mex. They are good people. But I do not like the way we have surrendered our sovereignty to people from other countries who have demanded the right to break our laws, take up residence in our country and draw on aid and services we are taxed for, that should be for our citizens. If someone wants to immigrate to the US, let them do so in accordance with our laws. Otherwise, they should not be here.

Sailor Steve · 02-08-14, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Phyrrus

Lol Steve, that was just a figure of speech

Put two on every mile, still way cheaper for US citizens than treating all the problems that occur on behalf of immigration. 3908 machineguns + 2 operators for each's total cost would be just 18% of your annual military spending. Not taking into account the USA goverment buget allocated for treating social problems, like immigration and it's consequences, like high criminality. It would be still way cheaper for you... But as I said before: who would clean the public toilets then?

It would also tie up almost 25,000 soldiers (you don't expect those two soldiers manning each gun to work around the clock, do you?). Having the machine guns implies that the soldiers would be expected to use them, i.e. murder anyone trying to cross the border. That is a bigger problem than just trying to turn them back. Of course they could send squads out to arrest them, but that would mean a lot more than just two soldiers per mile. I don't see that being as cost-effective as you claim.

Yes, illegal immigration is a problem. Stopping it is also a problem.

Aktungbby · 02-08-14, 12:32 PM

"Do you set the standard of when employment is called employment?"

TribesBBY: you're wasting your considerable talents on this one whom I fear has brought some old school multi-generational incurred values with him in his baggage. You'll win the argument, but your Phyrric victory ain't worth the carpal tunnel syndrome better spent quaffing one in a Galway pub; I worked immigration at the SF location( met lots of Celtic lasses on summer work 'Accommodation') and the bottom line is: people are just people...The world over. I'm a Minnasoteese immigrant to California and only the weather matters to me.(YOU BETCHA) Nice to hear someone like Phyrrus once in awhile though, so we are reminded what the problem still sounds like...the first part of the solution being vigilance! Hopefully enlightenment will set in.

Stealhead · 02-08-14, 12:36 PM

Pyrrhic victory...ba dum tis.

You are right people are people still it is far easier to hate.

Ducimus · 02-08-14, 01:10 PM

Why i'm not a big fan of Mexicans summarized in one picture, and It doesn't take a genius to see why.

Phyrrus · 02-08-14, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

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TribesBBY: you're wasting your considerable talents on this one whom I fear has brought some old school multi-generational incurred values with him in his baggage. You'll win the argument, but your Phyrric victory ain't worth the carpal tunnel syndrome better spent quaffing one in a Galway pub; I worked immigration at the SF location( met lots of Celtic lasses on summer work 'Accommodation') and the bottom line is: people are just people...The world over. I'm a Minnasoteese immigrant to California and only the weather matters to me.(YOU BETCHA) Nice to hear someone like Phyrrus once in awhile though, so we are reminded what the problem still sounds like...the first part of the solution being vigilance! Hopefully enlightenment will set in.

As for you, Aktungbby, you left me in awe of your wisdom, I am pleasantly surprised that someone apart historians still knows what a pyrrhic victory means

... I can be sarcastic as well, as you see, but that is no my aim. Actually I have no aim at all. This is no contest, and there is nothing to win. You are right about that this will change nothing, Earth will not stop spinning and immigration will not be solved if we argue about it in this forum. So Tribesman is indeed wasting his talents. We are here only to share thoughts in the hopes that those thoughts may start others to think or open hidden perspecticves, that's all. Nothing to win or lose here.
On a side note though, sarcasm and irony is just a way of putting your head under the sand, like an ostrich. You can choose not to give a damn about the world and care only for yourself and the sunshine, but that does not mean that the problems does not exist. I envy you to some extent, I am socially sensitive by nature, I couldnt give up yet the need to try not changing, but at least noticing and adjusting the world around me. Maybe I have a lot to learn from you

Now if you excuse me, I have to read the evening tale to my 3 year old kid, so... good night to everyone

02-08-14, 02:58 AM	#4
Phyrrus Mate Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: East Europe, home of new barbarian hordes! Posts: 52 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Ok, lets have a fresh start here, cuz many of you may think of me as a Nazi or KuKluxKan member of something - and I would't want to make a bad reputation on the first day joining this fine community, would I? But I I am neither, I am an immigrant. Immigrants are always two types. First ones are those who are really in need, they really want to do better in their life for themselves and their families. Economical or political immigrants playing fair for survival. (I like to count myself among them, but who knows maybe I'm wrong The second type are the parasites, the scum of their own countries, those who cant take up the fight in their own homelands, those who are too lazy to make a decent living in places where they could make a living if they'd be just a bit mre persistent, those that want to live always on the back of others anywhere they may be. They are always first in queue wherever something is for free, in their native country as well as in the country they emmigrated. And besid that, they are alway demanding for special treatment, always loudly repeating worsd like "discrimination". (this is the FIRST and only word that gipsies learn). They are a burden for any country. These people make roughy 80% of all the immigrants. I am not stereotypi..zing ( is that correct?) here, i speak from experience and statistics. Why does nobody talks about chinese immigrants (at least not so often)? Coz they adapt to local customs (most of the time), they are HARD WORKING people, they always have something to offer, and they are a wellcome addition to any local economy. Right? Ok, what people know about romanian and bulgarian immigrants in tha UK or mexicans in the US? That wherever they go, first thing is that they bulid their own maffia network, their criminal supply chains and start exploiting western countries. They are always the first to demand social assistance in form of money, housing, transportation and such, but they never give anything in exchange to their host country excep from anincreased criminality rate. I have no problem with the first ones, but the second type is a plague that has to be treated. I think this problem exceeds de shere immigration problem, its about overpopulation, and about that half of this overpopulated crowd is not willing to give its apport to the wellbeing of all, but want to live and thrive on the neck of others. On a side note: I count bankers, wall street sharks, high wage managers and other imperialists among the plague too, but that is another topic I think... I go do some work now, cuz some of us have to work sundays and saturdays as well... Phyrrus over and out.

02-08-14, 12:32 PM	#7
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,069 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	"Do you set the standard of when employment is called employment?" TribesBBY: you're wasting your considerable talents on this one whom I fear has brought some old school multi-generational incurred values with him in his baggage. You'll win the argument, but your Phyrric victory ain't worth the carpal tunnel syndrome better spent quaffing one in a Galway pub; I worked immigration at the SF location( met lots of Celtic lasses on summer work 'Accommodation') and the bottom line is: people are just people...The world over. I'm a Minnasoteese immigrant to California and only the weather matters to me.(YOU BETCHA) Nice to hear someone like Phyrrus once in awhile though, so we are reminded what the problem still sounds like...the first part of the solution being vigilance! Hopefully enlightenment will set in.

02-08-14, 12:36 PM	#8
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Pyrrhic victory...ba dum tis. You are right people are people still it is far easier to hate.

02-08-14, 01:10 PM	#9
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Why i'm not a big fan of Mexicans summarized in one picture, and It doesn't take a genius to see why.