Students shot in School shooting

Cybermat47 · 01-31-13, 06:07 PM

http://www.news.com.au/world/two-sho...-1226566379028

I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing this

Obelix · 01-31-13, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

http://www.news.com.au/world/two-sho...-1226566379028

I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing this

Me too! This is what that epidemic. Soon school will be similar to what some secret base: checkpoints, metal detectors, security guards and video surveillance (video surveillance, by the way, even in our provincial schools already in place). Such prospects are already considered in our schools. It is sad that this is going.

August · 01-31-13, 06:28 PM

Although this thread title says otherwise there are no deaths in this incident.

Cybermat47 · 01-31-13, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Although this thread title says otherwise there are no deaths in this incident.

Damn. I took the words 'shot' to be 'dead'. Let's just hope that the thread title remains incorrect.

August · 01-31-13, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Damn. I took the words 'shot' to be 'dead'. Let's just hope that the thread title remains incorrect.

Latest word is the kid is alert and talking.

Cybermat47 · 01-31-13, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Latest word is the kid is alert and talking.

Thank God! Should I PM NeonSamurai or Neal so that they can change the title?

Oberon · 01-31-13, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing this

Turn the internet, television and radio off.

Problem solved.

Oh, and don't read any newspapers...or talk to anyone.

AVGWarhawk · 01-31-13, 06:46 PM

None-the-less, there was a shooting at a school. I do not know what the answer is to prevent anymore.

01-31-13, 06:51 PM

Quote:

None-the-less, there was a shooting at a school. I do not know what the answer is to prevent anymore.

The answer is simple. Ban schools.

Ducimus · 01-31-13, 07:10 PM

Ill just repost this here then.

To me it sounds like one indvidual had some serious issues with another. I think there was another shooting a week or two ago. Very similar, and ill bet dollars to donuts, it was gang related. Two guys shooting at each other after a yelling match if i remember correctly.

Shootings like this are nothing new, and in fact, ill say that when i was growing up, the problems of shooting were WORSE THEN THEY ARE NOW. Or to put it another way, kids growing up now, aren't dealing with HALF the crap i had to put up with. I graduated high school in 1992. In my four years in high school we had a lot of gang problems, which resulted in at least 7 drive by shootings that I know of.

One of which, i was witness too. On that day, I was driving to work after getting out of class and for some stupid reason, I decided to go down the most congested street that day. Suddenly, I heard a "Pop pop pop pop pop pop pop" from somewhere behind me, I looked around i saw people diving to the ground, or into bush's, and then the realization hit me that it was a shooting. I ducked down in my car and got as close to the floor as i could. A min after the shooting stopped, i looked up, and saw a bullet hole in the left rail of the rollup door of a UPS truck that was in front of me. I'd say it missed the left side of my car by two feet. Once the traffic cleared, breathed a sigh of releif , continued my way to work, and never drove down that street again.

As it turns out, it was gang related. Hell, when i went to school I had to worry about being knifed, beaten with baseball bats, fist bats, and being shot at. The best thing to do, was don't get involved with or piss off the wrong people, don't go walking around where you shouldn't be, and mind your own damn business. Kids nowadays don't deal with that on the level that i did, at least not where i grew up, and in my area I went to the good high school. The other was WORSE. You know what ended the violence? The local PD opened an office in my old high school. Resource officers i think they're called. Yup, just like the NRA was saying, armed security, and it worked. I know because ive seen it happen.

EDIT: By the way, the shooting i was witness too, the gang bangers hit their intended target. I don't know who he was, but he was hit several times and air lifted via helecopter to Loma Linda hospital, and never heard of again. I assume he died. This was in 1990 or 1991.

Skybird · 01-31-13, 08:25 PM

This is incident number - which one since the famous elementary school shooting short time ago? Fourth? Fifth? Sixth? There is no calm, no patience in modern life anymore. Numbers are galloping, everything is going so fast, everybody is in stress and hectic - it is difficult to keep up with events.

Obviously, there are not enough weapons in the hands of people to keep other people with weapons in their hands in check. The conclusion is easy and recommends itself. There must be more weapons sold. Make the freedom to own weapons a mandatory obligation by law! That helps jobs, and the state could boost the economy by helping sales with tax reliefs and financial aid programs for the dispossessed and the poor people who else could not afford a gun. One village had made gun owning mandatory and claimed a drop in crime, some years ago, and we all know how criminal public spaces and school have become these days. With that in place nationwide, people can peacefully sleep again, knowing that all the violent movies and the culture of violence being celebrated and all the fear mongering and weapons fetishism cannot do any more harm. First thing I'd do if I would start a life in the US, would be to go and buy me a weapon. Heck, I would do that even before I get my passport from the guy at the pointed end of my gun!

137 lethal school shootings in the US from 1980 to 2012. And that is just school shooting incidents.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._1980_map.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._shooting.html

mapuc · 01-31-13, 08:42 PM

I have said it before and I say it again

To you American, get use to it. It will get worse, if you don't find a solution to your gun problem.

I do hope that you'll find a solution that both party can join and do solve the problem.

Markus

Oberon · 01-31-13, 08:58 PM

In before grand generalisation of European feeling and/or insult of entire European continent.

(Since I can't already put 'in before smug European incitement of delicate American subject')

In fact, sod it, let's just get this out of the way:

1) Shock thread posting chosen to incite feelings
2) Feelings incited
3) Anti-gun says I told you so
4) Pro-gun denies relation
5) Anti-gun provides facts
6) Pro-gun provides facts
7) Anti-gun provides insults
8) Pro-gun provides insults
9) Anti-gun or Pro-gun claims other is troll and will ignore them
10) Thread drops until the next incident or 'fact' is found to re-stir up the feelings and incitement.

There...can we just skip 4 through 9 and go straight to 10?

August · 01-31-13, 09:19 PM

As someone else said gun violence is only a symptom of our real problem. We've created a society that is breeding these child killers in ever larger numbers and we have to get to the bottom of why and stop it or no amount of gun control is going to keep us from falling into the abyss.

We had guns all around us growing up but actually shooting each other over schoolyard tussles just never entered our minds this in spite of the fact that we'd often spend recess playing army or cowboys and indians.

Something happened to our society between then and now. There's been lots and lots of changes. Figuring this out is not going to be easy, and it'll get no easier by polarizing people against each other. The more they argue over gun control the less likely the two sides will ever be able to work together to solve the actual problem.

Stealhead · 01-31-13, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Ill just repost this here then.

To me it sounds like one indvidual had some serious issues with another. I think there was another shooting a week or two ago. Very similar, and ill bet dollars to donuts, it was gang related. Two guys shooting at each other after a yelling match if i remember correctly.

Shootings like this are nothing new, and in fact, ill say that when i was growing up, the problems of shooting were WORSE THEN THEY ARE NOW. Or to put it another way, kids growing up now, aren't dealing with HALF the crap i had to put up with. I graduated high school in 1992. In my four years in high school we had a lot of gang problems, which resulted in at least 7 drive by shootings that I know of.

One of which, i was witness too. On that day, I was driving to work after getting out of class and for some stupid reason, I decided to go down the most congested street that day. Suddenly, I heard a "Pop pop pop pop pop pop pop" from somewhere behind me, I looked around i saw people diving to the ground, or into bush's, and then the realization hit me that it was a shooting. I ducked down in my car and got as close to the floor as i could. A min after the shooting stopped, i looked up, and saw a bullet hole in the left rail of the rollup door of a UPS truck that was in front of me. I'd say it missed the left side of my car by two feet. Once the traffic cleared, breathed a sigh of releif , continued my way to work, and never drove down that street again.

As it turns out, it was gang related. Hell, when i went to school I had to worry about being knifed, beaten with baseball bats, fist bats, and being shot at. The best thing to do, was don't get involved with or piss off the wrong people, don't go walking around where you shouldn't be, and mind your own damn business. Kids nowadays don't deal with that on the level that i did, at least not where i grew up, and in my area I went to the good high school. The other was WORSE. You know what ended the violence? The local PD opened an office in my old high school. Resource officers i think they're called. Yup, just like the NRA was saying, armed security, and it worked. I know because ive seen it happen.

EDIT: By the way, the shooting i was witness too, the gang bangers hit their intended target. I don't know who he was, but he was hit several times and air lifted via helecopter to Loma Linda hospital, and never heard of again. I assume he died. This was in 1990 or 1991.

Sounds like an experience my cousin and aunt had back in the early 90's down in Miami.At the time my cousin was playing on the high school soccer team and he wanted some special pair of shoes to play in.The store these shoes where sold from was in a "model" Miami neighborhood.

While my aunt and cousin where walking back to their car some sort of gang or drug related shoot out started so they both laid on the ground behind some parked cars.What they found more shocking than the shoot out was the local
woman who was also taking cover near by she showed no real concern on her face having to take cover from a gang banger shoot out a every day thing to her.

I think your experience is not too uncommon for people who grew up in larger inner cities just based on similar accounts I have heard from folks that live/lived in such locations.A good friend of mine his father lives in a "model" area of Baltimore over the past decade every vehicle he has owned has been hit by a stray bullet.Depending on where you live you are going to see things and deal with things that others do not have to contend with.

01-31-13, 06:07 PM	#1
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01-31-13, 06:28 PM	#3
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Although this thread title says otherwise there are no deaths in this incident. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

01-31-13, 06:46 PM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	None-the-less, there was a shooting at a school. I do not know what the answer is to prevent anymore. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-31-13, 08:25 PM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	This is incident number - which one since the famous elementary school shooting short time ago? Fourth? Fifth? Sixth? There is no calm, no patience in modern life anymore. Numbers are galloping, everything is going so fast, everybody is in stress and hectic - it is difficult to keep up with events. Obviously, there are not enough weapons in the hands of people to keep other people with weapons in their hands in check. The conclusion is easy and recommends itself. There must be more weapons sold. Make the freedom to own weapons a mandatory obligation by law! That helps jobs, and the state could boost the economy by helping sales with tax reliefs and financial aid programs for the dispossessed and the poor people who else could not afford a gun. One village had made gun owning mandatory and claimed a drop in crime, some years ago, and we all know how criminal public spaces and school have become these days. With that in place nationwide, people can peacefully sleep again, knowing that all the violent movies and the culture of violence being celebrated and all the fear mongering and weapons fetishism cannot do any more harm. First thing I'd do if I would start a life in the US, would be to go and buy me a weapon. Heck, I would do that even before I get my passport from the guy at the pointed end of my gun! 137 lethal school shootings in the US from 1980 to 2012. And that is just *school* shooting incidents. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._1980_map.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._shooting.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-31-13, 09:19 PM	#14
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As someone else said gun violence is only a symptom of our real problem. We've created a society that is breeding these child killers in ever larger numbers and we have to get to the bottom of why and stop it or no amount of gun control is going to keep us from falling into the abyss. We had guns all around us growing up but actually shooting each other over schoolyard tussles just never entered our minds this in spite of the fact that we'd often spend recess playing army or cowboys and indians. Something happened to our society between then and now. There's been lots and lots of changes. Figuring this out is not going to be easy, and it'll get no easier by polarizing people against each other. The more they argue over gun control the less likely the two sides will ever be able to work together to solve the actual problem. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

01-31-13, 07:10 PM	#10
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Ill just repost this here then. To me it sounds like one indvidual had some serious issues with another. I think there was another shooting a week or two ago. Very similar, and ill bet dollars to donuts, it was gang related. Two guys shooting at each other after a yelling match if i remember correctly. Shootings like this are nothing new, and in fact, ill say that when i was growing up, the problems of shooting were WORSE THEN THEY ARE NOW. Or to put it another way, kids growing up now, aren't dealing with HALF the crap i had to put up with. I graduated high school in 1992. In my four years in high school we had a lot of gang problems, which resulted in at least 7 drive by shootings that I know of. One of which, i was witness too. On that day, I was driving to work after getting out of class and for some stupid reason, I decided to go down the most congested street that day. Suddenly, I heard a "Pop pop pop pop pop pop pop" from somewhere behind me, I looked around i saw people diving to the ground, or into bush's, and then the realization hit me that it was a shooting. I ducked down in my car and got as close to the floor as i could. A min after the shooting stopped, i looked up, and saw a bullet hole in the left rail of the rollup door of a UPS truck that was in front of me. I'd say it missed the left side of my car by two feet. Once the traffic cleared, breathed a sigh of releif , continued my way to work, and never drove down that street again. As it turns out, it was gang related. Hell, when i went to school I had to worry about being knifed, beaten with baseball bats, fist bats, and being shot at. The best thing to do, was don't get involved with or piss off the wrong people, don't go walking around where you shouldn't be, and mind your own damn business. Kids nowadays don't deal with that on the level that i did, at least not where i grew up, and in my area I went to the good high school. The other was WORSE. You know what ended the violence? The local PD opened an office in my old high school. Resource officers i think they're called. Yup, just like the NRA was saying, armed security, and it worked. I know because ive seen it happen. EDIT: By the way, the shooting i was witness too, the gang bangers hit their intended target. I don't know who he was, but he was hit several times and air lifted via helecopter to Loma Linda hospital, and never heard of again. I assume he died. This was in 1990 or 1991.

01-31-13, 08:42 PM	#12
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I have said it before and I say it again To you American, get use to it. It will get worse, if you don't find a solution to your gun problem. I do hope that you'll find a solution that both party can join and do solve the problem. Markus

01-31-13, 08:58 PM	#13
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	In before grand generalisation of European feeling and/or insult of entire European continent. (Since I can't already put 'in before smug European incitement of delicate American subject') In fact, sod it, let's just get this out of the way: 1) Shock thread posting chosen to incite feelings 2) Feelings incited 3) Anti-gun says I told you so 4) Pro-gun denies relation 5) Anti-gun provides facts 6) Pro-gun provides facts 7) Anti-gun provides insults 8) Pro-gun provides insults 9) Anti-gun or Pro-gun claims other is troll and will ignore them 10) Thread drops until the next incident or 'fact' is found to re-stir up the feelings and incitement. There...can we just skip 4 through 9 and go straight to 10?