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Old 11-15-12, 07:00 PM   #1
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Let us keep it reasonable and sensible please.....
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Old 11-16-12, 01:25 AM   #2
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Let us keep it reasonable and sensible please.....
It is.
If a legacy state is held responsible for state crimes then it is only correct that their victims get compensation, if a number of uncompensated victims finally get their payout then one must question any objection to those payments.
The earlier post gets to the root of those objections in this case so it is reasonable as it is quick and to the point, and sensible as it is undeniable
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Old 11-16-12, 07:47 AM   #3
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Of course, the compensation paid.
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Old 11-16-12, 09:13 AM   #4
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It is.
If a legacy state is held responsible for state crimes then it is only correct that their victims get compensation, if a number of uncompensated victims finally get their payout then one must question any objection to those payments.
^^ this!

To the uninformed: While now compensations were extented to a number of jewish people, the compensations are not exclusive to Jews.

Maybe we could also talk about the compensation of the victims of the Algerian war or about the Algerians who were murdered by the French police at a demonstration in Paris. Or the question how long it took for the French to accept they screwed up there....
Or would this topic be too insensitive, since as a result of the Algerian adventure was that it brought many jewish refugees to France?
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Old 11-17-12, 08:54 AM   #5
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I admit I've got to smile a bit reading that news, while remembering a guy called Herman Rosenblat.

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Maybe we could also talk about the compensation of the victims of the Algerian war or about the Algerians who were murdered by the French police at a demonstration in Paris. Or the question how long it took for the French to accept they screwed up there....
Or would this topic be too insensitive, since as a result of the Algerian adventure was that it brought many jewish refugees to France?
If you like, man, no problem with that.
I wanted to demonstrate that most people fall into that 70 years old trap, and just wish to be in fashion getting offended by some things that happened to the greatest victim of all time worldwide : the Chosen People, due to the fact that the poor Chosen People have got to live the holocaust, decades ago. What about black people who've got to be victims of the slave trade ? What about the decimated Amerindian population in North America ? No, man, this is no holocaust, sorry : holocaust = 1942-1944 = jackpotdingdingdingdingdingding. Other than that ? Sorry we don't know what you're talking about.

And while we get you to think about cattle wagons going to death camps, what happens in Palestine ?
The so called Chosen People steal and occupy Palestinian land. Palestinians live the Shoah for more than 60 years now. But well, things could be worse, eh.
Has anyone ever been caring about them, while everyone is showing support to Israel ?
According to the #242 resolution made by the United Nations in 1967, all Israeli armed forces should withdraw from this land.
But they never cared about that so far. Why doesn't anyone just lift a finger and say "hey, but what are you still doing here" ? Because the so-called promised land is protected and subsidised by the world's big boss, the USA.
So now, I don't refuse to recognize the pain the Chosen People have gone through during the second world war. But those who consider themselves as the chosen people, eventually getting some family members going through so much pain at some time in History, are supposed to remember the reason why they've got to suffer. And so, they are not supposed to impose this kind of sanctions to Palestinians, making the shoah a palestinian thing nowadays.

The interest in pain should not be confined to one people only.

But feel free to be selective regarding the pain you're supposed to feel regarding tensions in the Middle East.

I've got to admit that I can't avoid feeling sad about the everyday people who always end up being the victims of that war, be they Palestinians or Israelis.
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Old 11-17-12, 09:11 AM   #6
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holocaust = 1942-1944 = jackpotdingdingdingdingdingding.
That's what this thread is about.

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And while we get you to think about cattle wagons going to death camps, what happens in Palestine ?
The so called Chosen People steal and occupy Palestinian land. Palestinians live the Shoah for more than 60 years now. But well, things could be worse, eh.
Has anyone ever been caring about them, while everyone is showing support to Israel ?
According to the #242 resolution made by the United Nations in 1967, all Israeli armed forces should withdraw from this land.
But they never cared about that so far. Why doesn't anyone just lift a finger and say "hey, but what are you still doing here" ? Because the so-called promised land is protected and subsidised by the world's big boss, the USA.
So now, I don't refuse to recognize the pain the Chosen People have gone through during the second world war. But those who consider themselves as the chosen people, eventually getting some family members going through so much pain at some time in History, are supposed to remember the reason why they've got to suffer. And so, they are not supposed to impose this kind of sanctions to Palestinians, making the shoah a palestinian thing nowadays.

The interest in pain should not be confined to one people only.

But feel free to be selective regarding the pain you're supposed to feel regarding tensions in the Middle East.

I've got to admit that I can't avoid feeling sad about the everyday people who always end up being the victims of that war, be they Palestinians or Israelis.
That is not what this thread is about. Jackpotdingding indeed. We've already got a thread about this. Take it there, orient.
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Old 11-17-12, 12:25 PM   #7
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Jackpotdingding indeed
It was a typo.
Evil jewish computers altered his text.

holocaust = 1933-1945 = jackbootingtingtingtingtingting
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Old 11-17-12, 01:43 PM   #8
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Evil jewish computers altered his text.
yep.
exactly the same computers which altered the number to 6 million
(in the late 1990's in schools we were still fed with the 7 million, not to mention the early post-war calculations which were as funny as the 6 million is today)
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