The who are you US congressman

Castout · 06-15-10, 01:29 AM

Oh my . . .

so who are you?!

UnderseaLcpl · 06-15-10, 01:50 AM

Wellllllllllll..........

I do see the representative's question as being valid, and I don't approve of the "student" refusing to present his identity. Etheridge's caution was not unwise.

That said, I don't understand why he would be so unwilling to answer the question or why on God's green earth he would think it appropriate to manhandle someone who is only asking him questions.

I figure there must be more to this story, but I'd have to see it before I could come to a conclusion.

Castout · 06-15-10, 02:21 AM

Well those students were smart not to give out their particulars!

That would probably save them a lot of future trouble.

The congressman's behavior can't be justified imo he had no rights to be rude and somewhat violent to those students WITHOUT provocation whatsoever. It's like being mugged by a congressman.

I wished at some point for those students to stand up for themselves I mean the congressman is an old man. I don't mean to hurt him but to be tough on the guy and not so relenting.

That congressman could be brought to court even in my third world country

CCIP · 06-15-10, 03:13 AM

Meh, exactly "democracy" at work. A public servant sure has trouble speaking in a public place - okay, that's understandable. Maybe not the right time of day. But "who are you?" - give me a break. What lies underneath that question is the ugly fact that politicians prefer to have their public images managed and are in fact mortified by the chance that kids on the street might catch their likeness saying something 'on record'.

Look, if you're a public servant of this sort, prepare to have yourself questioned by - gasp - the public. That means by anyone, anywhere. What does it matter WHO? Any member of the public has their right to ASK. And they have every right to record themselves asking. Now it's up to the representative whether to answer, and if it wasn't the time or place - I think it was his every right NOT to, and would've been wise not to. He should've just walked away, and that's that. Making a scene like that is silly. And again, just points to the fact that away from his PR managers, this guy is a hopeless dud. Can't behave himself in public to save his life.

Hope this circulates. Public officers allergic to the public need to be given a swift kick in the behind.

DarkFish · 06-15-10, 05:47 AM

"I have a right to know who you are."
"Sir, I'm standing here in a public place."
"So am I, who are you?"

Now I don't know about US law, but in the Netherlands being in a public place doesn't somehow grant you the right to know who everyone is.

Nor does it grant you the right to smash a camera out of someone's hand and grab him by the neck.

krashkart · 06-15-10, 06:28 AM

This is the United States. People have a right to treat each other like crap here.

Not that that's a good thing. It's just true. Don't let the friendliness fool you.

tater · 06-15-10, 08:29 AM

MSNBC said the guy was a victim of "ambush" journalism. I read another story where they described the incident (I kid you not) as the congressman hugging the guy.

He had every right to ASK who the kid was, you can ASK anything you want, the kid had no responsibility to tell him, and no one ever has the right to physically assault someone except in self defense. They should press criminal charges against him.

AVGWarhawk · 06-15-10, 09:07 AM

He just needs to learn to say, "No comment." Then just walk away. That ploy has worked for decades.

mookiemookie · 06-15-10, 09:14 AM

Did he look absolutely sh*tfaced to anyone else?

But that kid in the video is one of Breitbart's minions. While physically assaulting someone is over the line, it makes you wonder how the video was edited (as Breitbart is famous for) and what they're not showing. How did they antagonize the guy to the point where he gets physically violent?

SteamWake · 06-15-10, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Wellllllllllll..........

I do see the representative's question as being valid, and I don't approve of the "student" refusing to present his identity. Etheridge's caution was not unwise. .

Bull**** the 'student' has no obligation to provide identification. If the congressman feels that threatened I would recommend he defer to the secret service.

Contrary to what some may have you believe we do not have to carry 'papers' this is the United States.

The congresman's behaviour is way out of hand and this could well end up in legal action.

tater · 06-15-10, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Did he look absolutely sh*tfaced to anyone else?

But that kid in the video is one of Breitbart's minions. While physically assaulting someone is over the line, it makes you wonder how the video was edited (as Breitbart is famous for) and what they're not showing. How did they antagonize the guy to the point where he gets physically violent?

There is no possible way to un-edit that to make it acceptable. Laying hands on someone is assault, period.

And yeah, he looked drunk to me, too.

So we have an elected representative drunk while he's at work, who also assaults people.

tater · 06-15-10, 10:12 AM

BTW, were the video somehow nefariously edited, the congressman would not have apologized so readily. Which he did.

He should lose his job, frankly. When you are a public figure like that, you will get questioned by many people. If you are incapable of dealing with it—knowing full well you are being filmed—without resorting to violence, you lack the demeanor to hold office IMO.

He should get booted.

mookiemookie · 06-15-10, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tater

BTW, were the video somehow nefariously edited, the congressman would not have apologized so readily. Which he did.

Sure he would have. He was filmed physically assaulting someone. Which is completely beyond the pale.

But it still doesn't change the fact that Breitbart has a history of doing that sort of thing. While I don't condone assault, and yes, he deserves to lose his job, I also don't condone "Hey let's screw with that guy to the point of him losing it, and film the results"

AVGWarhawk · 06-15-10, 11:56 AM

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"Hey let's screw with that guy to the point of him losing it, and film the results"

What part of this in the video did you see this happen? The kid asked one question. The Rep just kind of went into defense mode and then a physically detaining the kid mode. The went into a, "I'm screwing up mode." He then is hugging the kid with his right arm. It is all wrong for the Rep from jump street. He should have just kept on walking and not acknowlege the kid with a question.

mookiemookie · 06-15-10, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What part of this in the video did you see this happen?

You didn't, but this is a Breitbart production and that's their M.O.

06-15-10, 01:29 AM	#1
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06-15-10, 01:50 AM	#2
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wellllllllllll.......... I do see the representative's question as being valid, and I don't approve of the "student" refusing to present his identity. Etheridge's caution was not unwise. That said, I don't understand why he would be so unwilling to answer the question or why on God's green earth he would think it appropriate to manhandle someone who is only asking him questions. I figure there must be more to this story, but I'd have to see it before I could come to a conclusion. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

06-15-10, 02:21 AM	#3
Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	Well those students were smart not to give out their particulars! That would probably save them a lot of future trouble. The congressman's behavior can't be justified imo he had no rights to be rude and somewhat violent to those students WITHOUT provocation whatsoever. It's like being mugged by a congressman. I wished at some point for those students to stand up for themselves I mean the congressman is an old man. I don't mean to hurt him but to be tough on the guy and not so relenting. That congressman could be brought to court even in my third world country __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/ Last edited by Castout; 06-15-10 at 02:48 AM.

06-15-10, 03:13 AM	#4
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Meh, exactly "democracy" at work. A public servant sure has trouble speaking in a public place - okay, that's understandable. Maybe not the right time of day. But "who are you?" - give me a break. What lies underneath that question is the ugly fact that politicians prefer to have their public images managed and are in fact mortified by the chance that kids on the street might catch their likeness saying something 'on record'. Look, if you're a public servant of this sort, prepare to have yourself questioned by - gasp - the public. That means by anyone, anywhere. What does it matter WHO? Any member of the public has their right to ASK. And they have every right to record themselves asking. Now it's up to the representative whether to answer, and if it wasn't the time or place - I think it was his every right NOT to, and would've been wise not to. He should've just walked away, and that's that. Making a scene like that is silly. And again, just points to the fact that away from his PR managers, this guy is a hopeless dud. Can't behave himself in public to save his life. Hope this circulates. Public officers allergic to the public need to be given a swift kick in the behind. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-15-10, 05:47 AM	#5
DarkFish Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stinking drunk in Eindhoven, the Netherlands Posts: 1,844 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	"I have a right to know who you are." "Sir, I'm standing here in a public place." "So am I, who are you?" Now I don't know about US law, but in the Netherlands being in a public place doesn't somehow grant you the right to know who everyone is. Nor does it grant you the right to smash a camera out of someone's hand and grab him by the neck. __________________

06-15-10, 06:28 AM	#6
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	This is the United States. People have a right to treat each other like crap here. Not that that's a good thing. It's just true. Don't let the friendliness fool you. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

06-15-10, 08:29 AM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	MSNBC said the guy was a victim of "ambush" journalism. I read another story where they described the incident (I kid you not) as the congressman hugging the guy. He had every right to ASK who the kid was, you can ASK anything you want, the kid had no responsibility to tell him, and no one ever has the right to physically assault someone except in self defense. They should press criminal charges against him.

06-15-10, 09:07 AM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	He just needs to learn to say, "No comment." Then just walk away. That ploy has worked for decades. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

06-15-10, 09:14 AM	#9
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Did he look absolutely shtfaced to anyone else? But that kid in the video is one of Breitbart's minions. While physically assaulting someone is over the line, it makes you wonder how the video was edited (as Breitbart is famous for) and what they're not showing. How did they antagonize the guy to the point where he gets physically violent? __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do.* Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

06-15-10, 10:12 AM	#12
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	BTW, were the video somehow nefariously edited, the congressman would not have apologized so readily. Which he did. He should lose his job, frankly. When you are a public figure like that, you will get questioned by many people. If you are incapable of dealing with it—knowing full well you are being filmed—without resorting to violence, you lack the demeanor to hold office IMO. He should get booted.