Scared of the Hedgehog

KL-alfman · 04-25-10, 05:31 AM

they are especially deadly in shallow waters.

don't like them at all!

Reinhard Dietz · 04-25-10, 07:59 AM

I hate the Hedgehog and I haven't even run into it yet since it's Q1 1941 in my current career.

What's the best defense against Hedgehog other than to not have it fired at you? There has to be some way to deal with it, even if the Germans back then wouldn't have known it.

flakmonkey · 04-25-10, 08:30 AM

Its coming to get you....Ruuuuuuun!

RConch · 04-25-10, 08:37 AM

The only defense I can think of would be constant changing of course when being pursued. Since it is a contact weapon, avoid contact if possible.
Is there a limit in the game on reloads and time to reload of the weapon, cause that was a weak spot with it.
It was complicated, "buggy", and took time to reload.

Jimbuna · 04-25-10, 08:48 AM

Your best defence (if you identify an escort armed as such and heading your way) is to put it to the top of your list of priorities, targetwise and take it out.

Immelman · 04-25-10, 08:58 AM

In '44 most escorts are equipped with it so putting an eel in every escort is not really an option. Oh and unless you cheat use free cam, there is no way to tell which one has and which one doesn't. Last career I had a hell of a time with those things, there is no evasive action against those really, they explode on impact no matter how deep you are... Just run silent, run deep and pray to what ever God you believe in. Good news is they have less then a dozen salvos each of this stuff, so just pray and try to attrite them...

From Das Boot: "The more they shoot the sooner they'll run out."

Fozzy22 · 04-25-10, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by flakmonkey

Its coming to get you....Ruuuuuuun!

It could almost EAT you!

frau kaleun · 04-25-10, 01:53 PM

Ai r hedgehog.

FEAR ME!!

sergei · 04-25-10, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Ai r hedgehog.

FEAR ME!!

Bone chilling.

PappyCain · 04-25-10, 03:07 PM

Daily journal entries before death:

http://www.history.navy.mil/library/special/u505_personal_diary.htm

"Chatelain was so close to U-505 that depth charges would not sink fast enough to intercept the U-boat, and instead opened fire with a hedgehog battery before passing the submarine and turning to make an attack with depth charges.[17] At around this time one of the aircraft sighted U-505 and dived on it, firing into the water to mark the position while Chatelain fired depth charges. Immediately after the detonation of the charges a large oil slick spread on the water and the fighter pilot overhead radioed, "You struck oil! Sub is surfacing!"[21] Less than seven minutes after Chatelain's first attack began, a badly damaged U-505 surfaced less than 600 metres (700 yd) away.[20] Chatelain immediately opened fire on U-505's decks with all available automatic weapons, while other ships of the task force and the two Wildcat fighters also opened fire.[17] Wounded and believing that U-505 was seriously damaged, the commanding officer of U-505 ordered his crew to abandon ship — an order obeyed so promptly that scuttling was not completed and the engines continued to run.[17] With the engines still running and the rudder damaged by the detonation of the depth charges, U-505 circled clockwise at approximately 7 knots (13 km/h). Seeing the U-boat turning toward him and believing it was preparing to attack, the commanding officer of Chatelain ordered a single torpedo fired at the submarine – however, the torpedo missed and passed ahead of the now-abandoned U-505.[17]"

Platapus · 04-26-10, 05:51 PM

Dinsdale!

krashkart · 04-27-10, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Dinsdale!

Ha!! I was waiting for that!

None of my careers last long enough to encounter hedgehogs; either from boredom or sheer ineptitude on my part. But my current campaign is looking sweet - 18 patrols - just might make it past the early years this time. *crosses fingers*

04-25-10, 05:31 AM	#1
KL-alfman Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weimar Posts: 930 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	they are especially deadly in shallow waters. don't like them at all! __________________ Life, Liberty and Property!

04-25-10, 07:59 AM	#2
Reinhard Dietz Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lorient Posts: 121 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	I hate the Hedgehog and I haven't even run into it yet since it's Q1 1941 in my current career. What's the best defense against Hedgehog other than to not have it fired at you? There has to be some way to deal with it, even if the Germans back then wouldn't have known it. __________________ Reinhard Dietz U-126 2. Unterseebootsflottille, Lorient

04-25-10, 08:30 AM	#3
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Its coming to get you....Ruuuuuuun! __________________

04-25-10, 08:37 AM	#4
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	The only defense I can think of would be constant changing of course when being pursued. Since it is a contact weapon, avoid contact if possible. Is there a limit in the game on reloads and time to reload of the weapon, cause that was a weak spot with it. It was complicated, "buggy", and took time to reload. __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

04-25-10, 08:48 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,938 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Your best defence (if you identify an escort armed as such and heading your way) is to put it to the top of your list of priorities, targetwise and take it out. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-25-10, 08:58 AM	#6
Immelman Sparky Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 150 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	In '44 most escorts are equipped with it so putting an eel in every escort is not really an option. Oh and unless you cheat use free cam, there is no way to tell which one has and which one doesn't. Last career I had a hell of a time with those things, there is no evasive action against those really, they explode on impact no matter how deep you are... Just run silent, run deep and pray to what ever God you believe in. Good news is they have less then a dozen salvos each of this stuff, so just pray and try to attrite them... From Das Boot: "The more they shoot the sooner they'll run out." __________________ Fotia kai tsekouri

04-25-10, 01:53 PM	#8
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Ai r hedgehog. FEAR ME!!

04-25-10, 03:07 PM	#10
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Journal entries before death ... Daily journal entries before death: http://www.history.navy.mil/library/special/u505_personal_diary.htm "Chatelain was so close to U-505 that depth charges would not sink fast enough to intercept the U-boat, and instead opened fire with a hedgehog battery before passing the submarine and turning to make an attack with depth charges.[17] At around this time one of the aircraft sighted U-505 and dived on it, firing into the water to mark the position while Chatelain fired depth charges. Immediately after the detonation of the charges a large oil slick spread on the water and the fighter pilot overhead radioed, "You struck oil! Sub is surfacing!"[21] Less than seven minutes after Chatelain's first attack began, a badly damaged U-505 surfaced less than 600 metres (700 yd) away.[20] Chatelain immediately opened fire on U-505's decks with all available automatic weapons, while other ships of the task force and the two Wildcat fighters also opened fire.[17] Wounded and believing that U-505 was seriously damaged, the commanding officer of U-505 ordered his crew to abandon ship — an order obeyed so promptly that scuttling was not completed and the engines continued to run.[17] With the engines still running and the rudder damaged by the detonation of the depth charges, U-505 circled clockwise at approximately 7 knots (13 km/h). Seeing the U-boat turning toward him and believing it was preparing to attack, the commanding officer of Chatelain ordered a single torpedo fired at the submarine – however, the torpedo missed and passed ahead of the now-abandoned U-505.[17]" __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

04-26-10, 05:51 PM	#11
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,397 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Dinsdale! __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.