Do we really want to ruin this forum with constant DRM and SH5 trashing?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Faamecanic

I wish to file a formal complaint about the complaint by the OP about the complainers complaing about complaints (note these complaints are completely unrelated to any of my complaints about complainers complaining about my compliants).

Wait.... I will start my own thread for this..... being as I just realized the OP did not address my complaint!!

Complain all you want. It won't stop people from complaining.

And that's the OP's complaint. I think.

[vonTorpitz]

Originally Posted by vonTorpitz

Recently I've heard a tremendous amount of flak both on and off this forum directed against SH5.
Its true, the game was released practically half finished and bug ridden to the extreme. But seriously! There's got to be a bright side to this dismal situation. We actually have a brand new u-boat simulator, exclusively set in The Battle of the Atlantic. The graphics in this game are absolutely amazing both inside and outside the boat, we can now move about the boat (this adds huge freakin possibilities if you use your imagination) and from what I've heard Ubisoft has created the game to very open-ended and moddable. And remember, their previous releases in this genre were also basically unfinished when released but the efforts (superhuman, I might add) of modding community were able to turn them into winners. I personally think the opportunities abound in this game and positivity goes along way folks. So, meine kameraden, keep faith in SH5 and keep faith in the unbelievable skills of the modding community surrounding this game. Because in a years' time this will probably be the best subsim you've ever played.

Danke und Sieg!

vonTorpitz

Achtung! The boat is drifting off course Herr Kaleunt! Or at least this thread is. My intention was to fish for some other fellow SH5 supporters and enthusiasts to commiserate with. People who have moved on from the futile DRM gripes. If you have no time for the game, why do you have time to come here and slag it. Do the rest of us a favor and please, forget about SH5 and move on, for crying out loud. This DRM crap is getting nowhere fast and its highjacking what could otherwise be constructive threads. How about some actual constructive discourse.C'mon. I know you guys are out there.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by ENtek-IO

Your cartoons are not funny , but they are subversive.

Subversive? What are you, a communist? Sure, they might be in bad taste (if you're a German), but they do have a point. Frankly, I'm not too sure why you would find them offensive, as they are simply highlighting the ridiculous guilt trip modern Germans are forced to endure.

Originally Posted by ENtek-IO

You are not a Brit by chance? You know one of those guys who speak Cockney? Because Usually that kind of crap is coming from the isle, London.. SUN Style.

I could respond to this with a witty comment, but I won't, as I don't want to offend our other German posters. However, please keep in mind that you can be stereotyped just as easily.

Originally Posted by ENtek-IO

You really start to make the impression that it is your goal to piss people off.

The only person pissing people off, would appear to be you.

[Brag]

The OP's complaint is a complaint about complainers complaining complaintively with negative complaints omitting a positive complaining attitude in their complaint. .

[d@rk51d3]

And if you don't like us complaining about all your complaining................... don't read it.

[Brag]

I wonder what Ubi would do if they thought we were all happy with DRM and loved to buy half-baked games.

[Sailor Steve]

Right back atcha. If you don't like what you're reading, complain about it!

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by Brag

I wonder what Ubi would do if they thought we were all happy with DRM and loved to buy half-baked games.

They'd change the DRM system and either release complete games, or blank discs.

[Rockin Robbins]

Yes, I think it's entirely appropriate to paint those of us who love good submarine simulation but hate what Ubi has done with SH5 as marginalized non-participants to be silenced and banned if necessary. After all, it is expedient that Subsim give the impression that we are solidly behind the new game, no matter what. We should DEFINITELY be talking about what we like about the Titanic, rearranging the deck chairs and singing merrily in the first class lounge. It's just a little hole and everyone knows that this thing can't sink. Let's all just sing Kumbaya and swap recipes, why don't we.

It's not important that our fair use rights as copyrighted materials purchasers are being stolen. NAW!!!! Just enjoy talking with the cook about the soup. It doesn't matter that the game company in five minutes can shut down all the servers, denying every game owner the ability to play the game they bought. Just head to the engine room and tell the engine crew to make 8 knots. What fun! Never mind the fact that no sub captain ever did that in reality. It's called immersion, like it or you're not wanted here.

Folks, I'm here because I love submarine simulation. It has nothing whatever to do with Silent Hunter 5 except that it is the latest Subsim du Jour. And it's a loser in nearly every respect. I'm here because I hate that. I'm here being vocal that my money is jingling in my pocket, reserved for a new submarine simulation that respects our rights, values our input and gives us value for the money we spend. I realize that not everyone believes they deserve to be treated well. I understand that purchasing a purposely insulting thing like Online "Services" (sneer!) Platform blows some people's skirts up. I know well that if you treat some people badly enough long enough they will demand it. This Titanic may have a few decent details, but they will soon be half a mile under the surface of the North Atlantic. Enjoy the ride. It's one I choose not to take and you'll excuse me if I urge others to abstain as well.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to be intimidated into shutting up. Not going to happen.

I think, as probably the largest comminity of sub simmers, the tone and topic of threads here is a very good indication of our accptance or displeasure of what is released.

SubSim may represent a bunch of whining women at the moment, but the message being sent to UBI is crystal clear.

I think that is very important, and outweighs the temporary inconvenience to those that have an issue with confrontation.

[Bilge_Rat]

I love reading your posts RR. I dont agree with any of it, but you sure have a great command of the engligh language.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Yes, I think it's entirely appropriate to paint those of us who love good submarine simulation but hate what Ubi has done with SH5 as marginalized non-participants to be silenced and banned if necessary. After all, it is expedient that Subsim give the impression that we are solidly behind the new game, no matter what. We should DEFINITELY be talking about what we like about the Titanic, rearranging the deck chairs and singing merrily in the first class lounge. It's just a little hole and everyone knows that this thing can't sink. Let's all just sing Kumbaya and swap recipes, why don't we.

It's not important that our fair use rights as copyrighted materials purchasers are being stolen. NAW!!!! Just enjoy talking with the cook about the soup. It doesn't matter that the game company in five minutes can shut down all the servers, denying every game owner the ability to play the game they bought. Just head to the engine room and tell the engine crew to make 8 knots. What fun! Never mind the fact that no sub captain ever did that in reality. It's called immersion, like it or you're not wanted here.

Folks, I'm here because I love submarine simulation. It has nothing whatever to do with Silent Hunter 5 except that it is the latest Subsim du Jour. And it's a loser in nearly every respect. I'm here because I hate that. I'm here being vocal that my money is jingling in my pocket, reserved for a new submarine simulation that respects our rights, values our input and gives us value for the money we spend. I realize that not everyone believes they deserve to be treated well. I understand that purchasing a purposely insulting thing like Online "Services" (sneer!) Platform blows some people's skirts up. I know well that if you treat some people badly enough long enough they will demand it. This Titanic may have a few decent details, but they will soon be half a mile under the surface of the North Atlantic. Enjoy the ride. It's one I choose not to take and you'll excuse me if I urge others to abstain as well.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to be intimidated into shutting up. Not going to happen.

It's a game. A game.

[ENtek-IO]

"Subversive? What are you, a communist? Sure, they might be in bad taste (if you're a German), but they do have a point. Frankly, I'm not too sure why you would find them offensive, as they are simply highlighting the ridiculous guilt trip modern Germans are forced to endure."

Well if they are in bad taste you gave yourself the answer why i found them to be offensive. YOu know exactly with what intention they were posted,the claiming "its funny" part was just a cover for the bad taste and the concealed attack.He hoped i would jump on it,6th grader style.

They got a point??
You know its 2010 ,...I am part of the postwar generation i had nothing to do with this war, i don't feel guilty and fought my whole life against the guilt indoctrination IN Germany on schools and certain other circles.
Usually the left are most prone to this type of masso BS.
I know a lot of people in my age group who don't even think remotely there is guilt In Generations post war.
Especially war gamers and simmers are immune to this and especially if they are from Germany. Guess how the general public in Germany views this type of activity?

And Yet from the German perspective there is a ranking in country's who don't get of the old BS Blame game.
In the top 2 you find Britain( the sun is always agood start almost daily,..Lines like "German Blitz does it again,referring to Michael Schumacher or a politician an ice scater.. you name it ,or Inaccurate History revisionist discovery channel docus ..etc ) and France, Nowadday Italy is part of that too ,they have forgotten that Mussolini was one of theirs, and inspired Hitler to Mein Kampf with his manifesto..


No one is forced to endure,its just that many are sheeple.



"The only person pissing people off, would appear to be you."

Repeating pre chewed phrases doesn't make them become more true.


The whole thing Started when i dared to tell a troll to look in the mirror,..

read the whole thread and you eventually get what i mean. tss.. Ignorance is bliss eh?


You two are quite persistent and are starting to piss ME off with your weird reality perception.

And that's the last i will say in this Thread .

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by ENtek-IO

You two are quite persistent and are starting to piss ME off with your weird reality perception.


And that's the last i will say in this Thread .

I know, the truth hurts when you are on the wrong side of an argument.

Dont feel bad, all the mindless SH5 haters feel the same way you do.

Dont let the door hit you on the way out, putz.

[Sub Marauder]

I probably won't buy the game for a long time. I was planning on creating a mod but after reading the problems with SH5 I would rather wait. Was Silent Hunter 4 this bad upon release? I can't imagine it was.