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Old 03-25-10, 09:41 AM   #1
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I have a problem, on full screen on my 21 inch Acer monitor (16:10), the 2D objects like dials are now egg shaped , but not on the horizontal scale like it was before this mod enabled, but on the vertical, like standing eggs. The 3D works perfectly.
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Old 03-25-10, 10:30 AM   #2
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I have a problem, on full screen on my 21 inch Acer monitor (16:10), the 2D objects like dials are now egg shaped , but not on the horizontal scale like it was before this mod enabled, but on the vertical, like standing eggs. The 3D works perfectly.
I guess that the problem here is that you monitor Physical size proportions isn't in correct 16:9. Reece related the same problem, with a 16:10 monitor.

Make this experiment: take a screen shot of the game showing the 2d dials, then put here on the forum and see: they will be all correctly circular.
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Old 03-25-10, 10:52 AM   #3
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I guess that the problem here is that you monitor Physical size proportions isn't in correct 16:9. Reece related the same problem, with a 16:10 monitor.

Make this experiment: take a screen shot of the game showing the 2d dials, then put here on the forum and see: they will be all correctly circular.
I've made that experiment and you are right, Rubini! But do you think there's a fix for that? I am using Sapphire ATI Radeon 5770 1024GB, 22 inch Acer P223W (even my Windows 7 64 says it's a P221W!), VGA connectivity with a VGA to DVI adapter, on a native resolution of 1680X1050, with no option of scaling in ATI Catalyst Control Center. On the first version, dll_widescreen.zip, the first one released a few days ago, the things were right. But on this new resolution setting of the new mode, there is the problem I've told you about. Any help would be apprecieted. Thank you anyway!
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Old 03-25-10, 11:15 AM   #4
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no luck seems the same... than again I'm a pc idiot everything seemed the same except i lost my lower right speed compass and tc box in the masterful world of spongebob he would say.......TARTER SAUCE
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Old 03-25-10, 01:18 PM   #5
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When I first enabled this res-fix i also got a cannot initialize the 3d engine error I checked my monitor refresh rate and it had changed from 75hz to 59hz so I manually changed it back and all works well again! Hope this will help those who are getting this error!

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Old 03-25-10, 04:28 PM   #6
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I've made that experiment and you are right, Rubini! But do you think there's a fix for that? I am using Sapphire ATI Radeon 5770 1024GB, 22 inch Acer P223W (even my Windows 7 64 says it's a P221W!), VGA connectivity with a VGA to DVI adapter, on a native resolution of 1680X1050, with no option of scaling in ATI Catalyst Control Center. On the first version, dll_widescreen.zip, the first one released a few days ago, the things were right. But on this new resolution setting of the new mode, there is the problem I've told you about. Any help would be apprecieted. Thank you anyway!
We have a problem that is: 1360x768 is a WS16:9 resolution and ONLY will appears ok on monitors that have also the PHYSICAL size/ratio of the LCD panel at 16:9. Some monitors have the physical size at 16:10. So, is easy to understand that a 16:9 GUI on a 16:10 monitor can finish with soft stretched 2d dials in its vertical. To solve this problem I guess that we need to make another basic GUI that uses a 16:10 resolution.
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Old 03-25-10, 05:41 PM   #7
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Rubini ??

I am totally agree with you
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I have a problem, on full screen on my 21 inch Acer monitor (16:10), the 2D objects like dials are now egg shaped , but not on the horizontal scale like it was before this mod enabled, but on the vertical, like standing eggs. The 3D works perfectly.
Yes I am getting this, so at this stage I am having second thoughts to the whole thing, my ATI card has 2 HDMI connectors and the monitor is HDMI, so going backwards to a VGA cable (analog) is not an option, the only way out is to deliberately widen the screen to say 1500x768 (not that it can be done), but then the snapshots would be wide! Gee you can't win, I don't know what to suggest at this stage since we already have lost even higher resolutions and can't Alt-Tab out of the game to use mods like Anvart's Flags and Pennants. What to do?
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Old 03-26-10, 02:50 AM   #9
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Yes I am getting this, so at this stage I am having second thoughts to the whole thing, my ATI card has 2 HDMI connectors and the monitor is HDMI, so going backwards to a VGA cable (analog) is not an option, the only way out is to deliberately widen the screen to say 1500x768 (not that it can be done), but then the snapshots would be wide! Gee you can't win, I don't know what to suggest at this stage since we already have lost even higher resolutions and can't Alt-Tab out of the game to use mods like Anvart's Flags and Pennants. What to do?
Having wide snapshots is less important than playing wide, in my opinion.

No worries, I've played in a windowed mode all the time, on 4:3 scale, so I will stick with it, at least some of you will have the chance to play on widescreen. I am not losing anything, it's just that I will not gain anything in this area. But it's not bad, I've gained a lot till now, with some mods.

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This is what it is like taking a camera shot:

A snapshot is round, I have tried every setting to get my monitor/Video card to work properly but nothing changes, If I select a horizontal or vertical frequency other that default it selects it ok, the screen goes black for a second then a box to say except settings? I click yes but goes back to default, tried unlocking and un-ticked "Hide settings that this monitor cannot handle" but no change! I think the mod will only work with an analog setup!
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Recce, i have the same problem, but it's OK, I will remain on 4:3 windowed mode.
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Old 03-26-10, 07:42 AM   #12
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Recce, i have the same problem, but it's OK, I will remain on 4:3 windowed mode.
Yes but that makes this mod redundant, you can't run this mod in a window, just reverts back to 1024x768, I am still trying to see if there is a third party application that might help, I don't use ATI's ccc, it's a pain in the butt, I use Tray tools but don't see any options there relating to this problem.
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Old 03-27-10, 04:55 PM   #13
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Yes I am getting this, so at this stage I am having second thoughts to the whole thing, my ATI card has 2 HDMI connectors and the monitor is HDMI, so going backwards to a VGA cable (analog) is not an option, the only way out is to deliberately widen the screen to say 1500x768 (not that it can be done), but then the snapshots would be wide! Gee you can't win, I don't know what to suggest at this stage since we already have lost even higher resolutions and can't Alt-Tab out of the game to use mods like Anvart's Flags and Pennants. What to do?
Hi Reece,

The Seeadles´s dll works for me, very well, with analog (VGA) cable AND with HDMI cable, no differences.

I also use/have Anvart´s Flags and Pennants without need to alt+tab. They are always disposable using just in game key commands, working flawless. Why you need to alt tab to use them??
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Old 03-27-10, 05:34 PM   #14
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ATI user have a problem with alt+tab, not only with SH3
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Old 03-28-10, 08:24 AM   #15
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@ Rubini, PM sent.
Hi Seeadler, the Alt-Tab problem is only with this new WS mod, normally SH3 with or without the old HiRes mod works fine no issue at all.
Any idea on how I can get rid of the vertical squashing, all attempts to change horz or vert frequency fail, just snaps back to default, even if I change settings to manual.
I am sure that the fix/problem lies with using analog/digital.
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