The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[elanaiba]

danlisa, scroll a little down:

Manufacturer's Description

A permanent Broadband internet connection and creation of a Ubisoft log-in are required to play.

[609_Avatar]

This just in... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100216/...broadband_data

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by elanaiba

danlisa, scroll a little down:

Manufacturer's Description

A permanent Broadband internet connection and creation of a Ubisoft log-in are required to play.

What! Read an entire page on the interwebs? You serious. This generation never reads the small print. I get dazzled by the pretty box and pays my money.

Point taken. Still, the reliability of the servers required for play is the weak point in this DRM venture.

[Darkreaver1980]

Hi there,

im realy suprised that so many people are upset. For myself, i already preordered silent hunter 5. Why should i cancel my preorder because of this DRM? I will open the game, install it and than play right away, my router is connected 24/7 anway and i think about 90% of all people have a permament connection too.

So, where is the drawback? i buy this game to have fun, because i love submarine games and i am able to play it...thats the only thing i want.

Only problem that i could see is that to many people are buying it and that the server will crash because of it.

i would say after 2-3 days the server will run 100% stable.

i just hope that we are able to chat in some global chat...because all people are connected to Ubi anyway...wouldnt this rock?! Chat with other people while you are sailing around! brag about your newest kill!

i also think that this copy proctection is a good way to go, its virtually not crackable, because the game needs an active connection to a server to work

Edit: And no, i dont work for Ubisoft lol

[TDK1044]

No. Don't be intimidated by the opinion of others. Purchase the game and enjoy it. As to your question though, I would argue that this is one reason for concern regarding DRM.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...07&postcount=1

[Darkreaver1980]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

No. Don't be intimidated by the opinion of others. Purchase the game and enjoy it. As to your question though, I would argue that this is one reason for concern regarding DRM.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...07&postcount=1

yes, thats a big drawback but most people will have a permament connection. I just hope that ubisoft will offer some kind of global chat or messenging service accross all connected players. That wouldnt be hard to do and i would pay twice the price for it

[609_Avatar]

Originally Posted by Darkreaver1980

I will open the game, install it and than play right away, my router is connected 24/7 anway and i think about 90% of all people have a permament connection too.

No offense but you really do need to educate yourself a bit more:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100216/...broadband_data

[onelifecrisis]

For you? Sounds to me like there are no drawbacks.

But some people don't have 24/7 internet or if they do it's not reliable. Some people have privacy concerns. Some other people seem to think that "principles" or "morality" or "ethics" have something to do with it, but don't ask me what those people are smoking.

[Darkreaver1980]

Originally Posted by 609_Avatar

No offense but you really do need to educate yourself a bit more:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100216/...broadband_data

This only means BROADBAND connection, not a 24/7 connection.

For myself, i only have a DSL 2000 connection (240kb/s) connected 24/7, i pay once per month for it thats how all european Provider work. You pay once per month and are connected 24/7, dont know about the USA and other parts of the world...do they have the same?

[Safe-Keeper]

I don't understand why save games have to be stored online, nor why you have to be on the Internet all the time while playing, rather than just having to have SH5 connect to the Web, enter a password and username, and then log back off and play. But I suppose there are reasons for this, and currently I support DRM as an anti-piracy measure.

Frankly, the "you'll never stop piracy!" tone of many dissidents makes me wonder what their true motivation for wanting DRM gone might be. "I won't buy the game while it has DRM" - probably true, but would you buy it, as in pay for it, if it didn't? Remember, as I've said several times, there's one very good way to stop the industry from using prohibitive anti-piracy measures. Stop pirating games.

i just hope that we are able to chat in some global chat...because all people are connected to Ubi anyway...wouldnt this rock?! Chat with other people while you are sailing around! brag about your newest kill!

That'd be awesome, would add functionality to the radio.

[piri_reis]

Your assumptions are wrong,

%90 percent of the people have permanent connections? No the percentage is much much less. And those that do, pay for permanent connections but the service goes down every once a while.

Servers go down, applications crash, that means you will be bound to somebody elses services to play your single player game.

After 2-3 days, %100 stable? Yeah you must be new in computing... That's never true.

Virtually uncrackable? How do you know? Did UBI just invent this? Yes people have used this protection in the past and there ways to get around it.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by 609_Avatar

No offense but you really do need to educate yourself a bit more:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100216/...broadband_data

Very interesting link!
Though I think a more relevant statistic would be: what percentage of PC gamers in the US have a broadband subscription? It's safe to say that nobody outside of that group is going to be buying SH5.

[razark]

And if Ubi pulls the plug on their servers and does not release a patch?

Do you know for sure they will release a patch?

You're at their mercy. If they decide that it's time for SH6, and they pull the plug on the SH5 DRM server, and refuse to release a patch, you have two options. You can stop playing a game you paid for, or you can break the law and run a cracked version.

I find neither of these choices to be acceptable.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by danlisa

What! Read an entire page on the interwebs?

Come on Dan, everyone knows it's teh interweb.

[Safe-Keeper]

Though I think a more relevant statistic would be: what percentage of PC gamers in the US have a broadband subscription? It's safe to say that nobody outside of that group is going to be buying SH5.

True, that. Games that require you to be online at all times usually fail miserably.