'This can't be happening in our country.'

[Skybird]

I cannot define "human life in production" - what should that be, please? Either it is human life, or it is not. Two states of cellular developement, that cannot clearly be separated from each other by a precise point in the timeline, thus we need to find an agreement on the grey zone where that cellular mass that has nothing, really nothing in common with a human being, actually turns into a human being that shows a cellular order with a sufficiently advanced structure to see it as a human being. And not before then - you can eventually talk of "human life in production". Before that, it is just some cellular grease with genetic information to eventually become a human - but who would think of the genetic information in the hairs and skin cells he/she is loosing all day long as a "human life prevented from developement"? Our reactions to threats to our genetic code are instinct driven survival automatisms - where the survival of our species is meant, not necessarily our individual survival.

Knowing that we are free to leave this genetically enforced automatism behind, if we chose to do so, I see no wrong in doing that during the phase where that cellular grease is just that: cellular grease. no human gets killed there. No future gets prevented, for a future of something has as a precondition that this something already exists in the present. Potentials alone - are no future. They are just fate's hear-say about Whats and Ifs and Maybes. Philosophical finger excercises to please the ego and to saend the intellect on doing that one extra round. I could as well think about what my life would be if I would have had a sister or brother. It makes no sense, and means nothing, and I will never know wanything for sure, and if I could nevertheless, that knowledge would be useless for me in my life. Hirngespinste.

So, disucssion I only understand on the issue of until what time abortion is acceptable. And it could be possible that I fix that time much earlier than is usually the case, but I would need to educate myself much better on the timetable of embryonic developement phases. Before that time, I see abortion as morally perfectly legal, and all upstir about it as an instinct-driven venting of emotional overpressure that results from the genetically encoded law to survive - and like all automatisms, it does not work perfectly and in this case even is counterproductive.

for any further discussion of aboprtion I refer you to this most uncompromised realist I know, Dr. House. Just try to imagine what he would reply to you!