Digital TV transition delay bill fails to pass in House! - Page 3

AVGWarhawk · 01-29-09, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by breadcatcher101

Back when TV first came on the scene we, not the goverment bought the equipment needed, not the goverment. Same with radio. It is not the job of goverment to supply these type services.

You and I are just going to disagree with this.

Ok, so the government shows up at breadcatchers house and says, we are taking away the use of UHF and that radio you are listening to will not work anymore. But, we will let VHF work so go buy a radio that will pick up VHF. You do not believe that the government should help you pay for a new radio? Your old radio you paid for is now a paper weight and you are out the cash. Plus, you get to shell out some more cash for another radio that picks up what the government says can be picked up? Does not seem right, does it? What if breadcatcher can not afford a new radio? He just spent his money he saved on the one he has just a week ago. Breadcatcher is just supposed to suck it up? :hmm: The government imposed a cash outlay upon you.....

SteamWake · 01-29-09, 12:07 PM

The goverment imposes a cash outlay from me every single working day.

FIREWALL · 01-29-09, 12:26 PM

What is the big deal with delaying the change over for a short period of time ?

They ran out of money for the discount cards for the people on a fixed income long before February.

AVGWarhawk · 01-29-09, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

The goverment imposes a cash outlay from me every single working day.

Yes, I as well and this is above and beyond the normal cash outlay IMO.

FIREWALL · 01-29-09, 12:49 PM

The day anyone believes the Goverment is their friend they will have a wet sheet wrapped around them and a net dropped over them.

The TV and Radio stations should be supplying these discount cards to everyone.

Their the ones who make bank on this changeover.

AVGWarhawk · 01-29-09, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

The day anyone believes the Goverment is their friend they will have a wet sheet wrapped around them and a net dropped over them.

The TV and Radio stations should be supplying these discount cards to everyone.

Their the ones who make bank on this changeover.

Yes, they make bank over it because running analog cost more than digital. But, this was instituted by the government to free up analogy waves for emergency response, etc. :39:

Zachstar · 01-29-09, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

The days of using badly built TV antennas are over. You cant just throw up a coat hanger to watch the Olympics or a wire up to watch late night.

However, There are plenty of GREAT ways to pull in the signal. The silver sensor is perfect for urban areas where you want to avoid ghosting (The sensor gets its signals in a narrow field of view)

For the rural communities there is this.

Those who build it right are reporting GREAT results with it. And its cheap and rugged enough to put outside. The higher you get the WAY better signal you get in rural communities where the problem is more along the lines of the tower being just over the horizon rather than signal strength.

Edit: Check this video out!

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/DSCI0028.jpg

Now I think there is an error in the TV when it reports so many channels. But if you live in the areas around the 5-7 mega cities you can easily expect 30-40 channels. PBS alone has 4.

I'm going to give this a try... I'm too curious. Heading for the dollar store heehehe.

Ok I built this antenna.

Good news It works.

Bad news Not as good as my RCA one like in the video.

Lol it was fun though.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/DSCI0028.jpg

If I place this baby outside then I'm sure I'd get better images... lol

That is strange. These have normally kicked the pants off RCA antennas.

Do you mind posting your zip code so I can see your transmitter situation?

SteamWake · 02-04-09, 04:35 PM

Well just heard the vote to delay passed...

What freakin ever, we have more important things to address at the moment.

Zachstar · 02-04-09, 05:54 PM

This will be a disaster.

People are suddenly going to see more than half of the channels vanish.

PBS is moving over regardless. It is costing them millions to run analog.

People are going to be confused. They hear on TV that it was delayed but they lost their channels. The chaos will only harm things.

SteamWake · 02-04-09, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

This will be a disaster.

People are suddenly going to see more than half of the channels vanish.

PBS is moving over regardless. It is costing them millions to run analog.

People are going to be confused. They hear on TV that it was delayed but they lost their channels. The chaos will only harm things.

Your tax dollars at work

Reece · 02-04-09, 10:14 PM

Here in Australia it is changing in 2010, I'm not looking forward to it, I live in the country, no cable, no UHF, all we can receive with antenna on tower is VHF, even with a 24db booster the pictures get snowy at times, I have a Digital TV card in my pc but instead of snow I lose sound or picture breaks up into blocks!

The only other option is satellite even then we are in a valley surrounded by hills and trees.

will have to do something when the time comes though, even the maximum on broadband here is 256k, better than 56k modem though!!

August · 02-05-09, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

Here in Australia it is changing in 2010, I'm not looking forward to it, I live in the country, no cable, no UHF, all we can receive with antenna on tower is VHF, even with a 24db booster the pictures get snowy at times, I have a Digital TV card in my pc but instead of snow I lose sound or picture breaks up into blocks!

The only other option is satellite even then we are in a valley surrounded by hills and trees.

will have to do something when the time comes though, even the maximum on broadband here is 256k, better than 56k modem though!!

Mount your dish on the antenna tower and that should give you LOS to the satellite.

Reece · 02-05-09, 11:38 PM

Gee I wish it was that easy, I had purchased the dish (1.5mtr) with rotator etc, still new in box, must be mounted on 75mm steel pipe concreted in ground, not allowed to move even 1mm!! apparently, but at that height no coverage, so I have to get a better tower, the one for the antenna is suspended with guys, too flimsy for the dish!

FIREWALL · 02-06-09, 12:00 AM

Try to find a $40.00 box at the stores now.

They will be double in price tomorrow.

August · 02-06-09, 12:45 AM

Hmmm, but Australia is a lot closer to the equator than the US. Those must be some really steep hills around you to block your angle to the satellite.

You might also be able to substitute a ground mount for a rooftop. Sturdy and straight is all you need to make it.

01-29-09, 12:26 PM	#33
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	What is the big deal with delaying the change over for a short period of time ? They ran out of money for the discount cards for the people on a fixed income long before February. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

01-29-09, 12:49 PM	#35
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	The day anyone believes the Goverment is their friend they will have a wet sheet wrapped around them and a net dropped over them. The TV and Radio stations should be supplying these discount cards to everyone. Their the ones who make bank on this changeover. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-04-09, 05:54 PM	#39
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	This will be a disaster. People are suddenly going to see more than half of the channels vanish. PBS is moving over regardless. It is costing them millions to run analog. People are going to be confused. They hear on TV that it was delayed but they lost their channels. The chaos will only harm things. __________________

02-04-09, 10:14 PM	#41
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,957 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Here in Australia it is changing in 2010, I'm not looking forward to it, I live in the country, no cable, no UHF, all we can receive with antenna on tower is VHF, even with a 24db booster the pictures get snowy at times, I have a Digital TV card in my pc but instead of snow I lose sound or picture breaks up into blocks! The only other option is satellite even then we are in a valley surrounded by hills and trees. will have to do something when the time comes though, even the maximum on broadband here is 256k, better than 56k modem though!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

02-05-09, 11:38 PM	#43
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,957 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Gee I wish it was that easy, I had purchased the dish (1.5mtr) with rotator etc, still new in box, must be mounted on 75mm steel pipe concreted in ground, not allowed to move even 1mm!! apparently, but at that height no coverage, so I have to get a better tower, the one for the antenna is suspended with guys, too flimsy for the dish! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

01-29-09, 12:07 PM	#32
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The goverment imposes a cash outlay from me every single working day.

02-04-09, 04:35 PM	#38
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well just heard the vote to delay passed... What freakin ever, we have more important things to address at the moment.

02-06-09, 12:00 AM	#44
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Try to find a $40.00 box at the stores now. They will be double in price tomorrow. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-06-09, 12:45 AM	#45
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,258 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hmmm, but Australia is a lot closer to the equator than the US. Those must be some really steep hills around you to block your angle to the satellite. You might also be able to substitute a ground mount for a rooftop. Sturdy and straight is all you need to make it. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.