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Old 01-07-08, 06:38 PM   #1
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I just thought it would be futile heartc has already made up his mind that the UK, BBC, well the whole of europe is in the grip of communism. Anyone who talks about the 'EUSSR' doesn't seem open to suggestions.

But just for the record.....its all about checks and balances, Fox News would be in trouble if it was a UK TV channel preciesly because it lacks them and advocates an obvious political bias. UK TV is not allowed to have this.

I'd be interested just how familiar heartc is with the British media? Or did he just hear about it on Fox News?

BTW the establishment in the UK is deciedly conservative with a small 'c'.
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I just thought it would be futile heartc has already made up his mind that the UK, BBC, well the whole of europe is in the grip of communism. Anyone who talks about the 'EUSSR' doesn't seem open to suggestions.

But just for the record.....its all about checks and balances, Fox News would be in trouble if it was a UK TV channel preciesly because it lacks them and advocates an obvious political bias. UK TV is not allowed to have this.

I'd be interested just how familiar heartc is with the British media? Or did he just hear about it on Fox News?

BTW the establishment in the UK is deciedly conservative with a small 'c'.
Maybe so but I read and listen to the Beeb all the time and i have to say that (IMHO) they are indeed as biased as any other western media organization.
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I just thought it would be futile heartc has already made up his mind that the UK, BBC, well the whole of europe is in the grip of communism. Anyone who talks about the 'EUSSR' doesn't seem open to suggestions.

But just for the record.....its all about checks and balances, Fox News would be in trouble if it was a UK TV channel preciesly because it lacks them and advocates an obvious political bias. UK TV is not allowed to have this.

I'd be interested just how familiar heartc is with the British media? Or did he just hear about it on Fox News?

BTW the establishment in the UK is deciedly conservative with a small 'c'.
Maybe so but I read and listen to the Beeb all the time and i have to say that (IMHO) they are indeed as biased as any other western media organization.

IMO the BBC is about as impartial as you're going to get.
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IMO the BBC is about as impartial as you're going to get.
"IMO". So what if I just happened to not agree? What if I said that I would like to have Fox News or whatever since "it is about as impartial as you're going to get, IMO." Well, then I'm ****ed, because my channel would get censored out of the air. Because someone, somewhere, with guidelines, said that they were IHO biased, while the BBC is "as impartial as you're going to get IMO." Cool.

I happen to believe that the BBC, and in Germany "Der Spiegel", is biased, just like any outlet is, but I would be in arms if someone with guidelines would want to CENSOR them. People must be able to choose from a broad offering to form an educated opinion. The media must be held to account by checks and balances in a diverse media landscape, and by the people, not by guidelines.
Also see my posting above.
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You want to fill your head full of Rupert Murdoch then go ahead nothing in the UK says that you can't watch Fox News if you want or Al Jazeera or the Iranian governments English language service if you so wish. Its UK TV channels that are regulated and hence the BBC. They are not allowed to editorialise news content in the same way a newspaper can. Fox News pushes a politcal agenda the BBC does not.

And who do you think regulates the TV in the UK? The Politbureau?

I just find your assertion that anything which you don't agree with is made by 'commies' is ridiculous.
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Fox News pushes a politcal agenda the BBC does not.
And I find that assertion pretty naive.
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Ok and this political aganda is?
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But just for the record.....its all about checks and balances, Fox News would be in trouble if it was a UK TV channel preciesly because it lacks them and advocates an obvious political bias. UK TV is not allowed to have this.
You don't get it. *Every* media outlet in itself *lacks* them, for it is a human-run hierarchical system, and humans are biased. If you say that is not so, then you are either intellectually dishonest, or naive and living in denial.
The only way checks and balances can get into the media landscape is by having DIFFERENT and DIVERSE media outlets. The very fact that there is some commitie making guidelines that would take a station off the air because it might broadcast what they would decide to be biased should have you worried.

But it's allright. Just give me those rose-colored glasses you wear and I'll be fine, too.
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