[REL] SH4 effects (and more) for SH3

Samwolf · 10-31-07, 08:11 AM

Racerboy,

FYI.

I found that when I use your mod I lost some sounds and a few have become almost inaudible.

The inaudible ones are :

amb_submarineInterior.wav
Torpedo Tube opening.wav

The missing sounds are:

Beaufight.airplane.wav
Mosquitos.airplane.wav
WildcatGr.airplane.wav

Also the Marlet sound is gone. (I think it used the WildcatGr.wav)

Not sure if the "damaged" wavs for those planes are gone, haven't been able to damage any of them.

Kar · 10-31-07, 08:22 AM

Nice mod but I have some problems with flares. One sinking ship fired around 50 flares after torpedo hit. Its was like firework

And I have sugestion for your mod. Can you make water spalshing from flooding holes on sub like in SH4 ?

Cap'n Spanky · 10-31-07, 10:11 AM

It just keeps getting better RB....
Oh... yes on the flailing arms and legs!!!

USS Sea Tiger · 10-31-07, 12:02 PM

How can I increase the time the flares stay lighted in the sky,, I love that effect

Koondawg · 10-31-07, 12:42 PM

Quote:

you're using v2.021 and this happened?

Im using the one from the link you sent me....if that isn't the latest then U owe me an update...LOL

TheDarkWraith · 10-31-07, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Koondawg

Quote:

you're using v2.021 and this happened?

Im using the one from the link you sent me....if that isn't the latest then U owe me an update...LOL

in your mods folder does it say Racerboy_SH4_effects_for_SH3_2_02 or 2_021? If not 2_021 then go to post #1 of this thread for an update

Phoenix3000 · 11-01-07, 06:28 AM

Hi RacerBoy, glad the info on the flares was helpful. Looking forward to seeing the result!

One other thing, and apologies if this has already been asked, but do you know how to mod the speed of sounds reaching your sub?

For example, right now you can fire a shell at a merchant, say at 2000m, you hear the hit immediately. In real-life there would be a 2-3 second pause before you heard it strike.

I'm not sure if you have played Steelbeasts Pro PE, but this aspect is modelled in there very well. I no longer have SH4 installed on my system (much prefer SH3 GWX!), so can't recollect if it was implemented in that game. It's worth checking out a couple of Steelbeasts Pro videos on youtube and watch a battle taking place, the sound distancing is done very well.

Anyway, thought I would just put that idea out there...

Cheers!
Px3000

TheDarkWraith · 10-31-07, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kar

Nice mod but I have some problems with flares. One sinking ship fired around 50 flares after torpedo hit. Its was like firework

And I have sugestion for your mod. Can you make water spalshing from flooding holes on sub like in SH4 ?

Which ship was this? If the maker of ship hasn't set some parameters correctly then yes, it's feasible that this could happen. I would like to know which ship this happened on.
The flares are tied to the splinter_explosion event. So if the ship has many items that are set to be splinter explosioned that haven't been 'destroyed' yet then anytime the ship 'explodes' all these items explode also and send up a flare.
I haven't been successful in getting this water splashing from flooding holes working correctly. I have made it, just trying to get it working right and correctly. We don't have the same controllers and all as in SHIV so I have to make work-arounds.

Kar · 10-31-07, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerboy

Which ship was this? If the maker of ship hasn't set some parameters correctly then yes, it's feasible that this could happen. I would like to know which ship this happened on.
The flares are tied to the splinter_explosion event. So if the ship has many items that are set to be splinter explosioned that haven't been 'destroyed' yet then anytime the ship 'explodes' all these items explode also and send up a flare.
I haven't been successful in getting this water splashing from flooding holes working correctly. I have made it, just trying to get it working right and correctly. We don't have the same controllers and all as in SHIV so I have to make work-arounds.

I think it was Big Split Merchant converted from SH4 or stock GWX large or medium tanker, I cant remember

(but its absolutely one of these)

TheDarkWraith · 10-31-07, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerboy

Which ship was this? If the maker of ship hasn't set some parameters correctly then yes, it's feasible that this could happen. I would like to know which ship this happened on.
The flares are tied to the splinter_explosion event. So if the ship has many items that are set to be splinter explosioned that haven't been 'destroyed' yet then anytime the ship 'explodes' all these items explode also and send up a flare.
I haven't been successful in getting this water splashing from flooding holes working correctly. I have made it, just trying to get it working right and correctly. We don't have the same controllers and all as in SHIV so I have to make work-arounds.

I think it was Big Split Merchant converted from SH4 or stock GWX large or medium tanker, I cant remember

(but its absolutely one of these)

by chance can you send me the files for this ship?

Kar · 10-31-07, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerboy

by chance can you send me the files for this ship?

Its in this pack http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...split+merchant

TheDarkWraith · 10-31-07, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Samwolf

Racerboy,

FYI.

I found that when I use your mod I lost some sounds and a few have become almost inaudible.

The inaudible ones are :

amb_submarineInterior.wav
Torpedo Tube opening.wav

The missing sounds are:

Beaufight.airplane.wav
Mosquitos.airplane.wav
WildcatGr.airplane.wav

Also the Marlet sound is gone. (I think it used the WildcatGr.wav)

Not sure if the "damaged" wavs for those planes are gone, haven't been able to damage any of them.

Let me guess, you're runnning GWX? If so then they've added some new sounds to the Sh3.sdl and particles.dsd that aren't in my files. I will see what needs to be added to my files to add these missing sounds.
Amb submarine interior I decreased the volume on.
Torpedo tube opening I haven't touched yet. But I will be increasing it's volume in 2.03's release.
If anyone else has missing sounds please let me know. I need specifics like the above so I can find them and add them.

Samwolf · 10-31-07, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samwolf

Racerboy,

FYI.

I found that when I use your mod I lost some sounds and a few have become almost inaudible.

The inaudible ones are :

amb_submarineInterior.wav
Torpedo Tube opening.wav

The missing sounds are:

Beaufight.airplane.wav
Mosquitos.airplane.wav
WildcatGr.airplane.wav

Also the Marlet sound is gone. (I think it used the WildcatGr.wav)

Not sure if the "damaged" wavs for those planes are gone, haven't been able to damage any of them.

Let me guess, you're runnning GWX? If so then they've added some new sounds to the Sh3.sdl and particles.dsd that aren't in my files. I will see what needs to be added to my files to add these missing sounds.
Amb submarine interior I decreased the volume on.
Torpedo tube opening I haven't touched yet. But I will be increasing it's volume in 2.03's release.
If anyone else has missing sounds please let me know. I need specifics like the above so I can find them and add them.

Yep, running GWX. (Isn't everyone?) Thanks for looking into this.

Phoenix3000 · 10-31-07, 11:13 AM

Hi RacerBoy, thanks for the reply.

I've located a couple of sources on the web for naval distress flares. The first was originally introduced in 1959, reaches approx. 350m and burns red for 40+ seconds:

http://www.sailgb.com/p/parachute_rocket/

The second is more modern, burns orange (but same principle as red) and burns for approximately 20+ seconds:

http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data...tion/gr/15.htm

Personally, I would reduce the current size of the flare itself by about a third, and leave a slight glow around it - too much and it won't look right in daytime.

As for the reflection on the sea, at a height of over 350 metres there wouldn't be much surface reflection on a rolling sea. Perhaps a few flecks of dark red here and there as the light catches the swell.

Cheers!
Px3000

Koondawg · 10-31-07, 11:36 AM

Id like to say " A great job...2 thumbs up"...love the sounds, flares all of it...
although I have found depending upon where you hit the boat say with the deck gun the flare may go into the water...depending upon the explosion on board...hope this helps

10-31-07, 12:02 PM	#4
USS Sea Tiger XO Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 425 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	flares How can I increase the time the flares stay lighted in the sky,, I love that effect

11-01-07, 06:28 AM	#7
Phoenix3000 Weps Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England (Usually in a pub...) Posts: 358 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	Hi RacerBoy, glad the info on the flares was helpful. Looking forward to seeing the result! One other thing, and apologies if this has already been asked, but do you know how to mod the speed of sounds reaching your sub? For example, right now you can fire a shell at a merchant, say at 2000m, you hear the hit immediately. In real-life there would be a 2-3 second pause before you heard it strike. I'm not sure if you have played Steelbeasts Pro PE, but this aspect is modelled in there very well. I no longer have SH4 installed on my system (much prefer SH3 GWX!), so can't recollect if it was implemented in that game. It's worth checking out a couple of Steelbeasts Pro videos on youtube and watch a battle taking place, the sound distancing is done very well. Anyway, thought I would just put that idea out there... Cheers! Px3000 Last edited by Phoenix3000; 11-01-07 at 06:51 AM.

10-31-07, 11:13 AM	#14
Phoenix3000 Weps Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England (Usually in a pub...) Posts: 358 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	Hi RacerBoy, thanks for the reply. I've located a couple of sources on the web for naval distress flares. The first was originally introduced in 1959, reaches approx. 350m and burns red for 40+ seconds: http://www.sailgb.com/p/parachute_rocket/ The second is more modern, burns orange (but same principle as red) and burns for approximately 20+ seconds: http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data...tion/gr/15.htm Personally, I would reduce the current size of the flare itself by about a third, and leave a slight glow around it - too much and it won't look right in daytime. As for the reflection on the sea, at a height of over 350 metres there wouldn't be much surface reflection on a rolling sea. Perhaps a few flecks of dark red here and there as the light catches the swell. Cheers! Px3000 Last edited by Phoenix3000; 11-01-07 at 06:21 AM.

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10-31-07, 08:11 AM	#1
Samwolf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Carolina, CSA Posts: 684 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Racerboy, FYI. I found that when I use your mod I lost some sounds and a few have become almost inaudible. The inaudible ones are : amb_submarineInterior.wav Torpedo Tube opening.wav The missing sounds are: Beaufight.airplane.wav Mosquitos.airplane.wav WildcatGr.airplane.wav Also the Marlet sound is gone. (I think it used the WildcatGr.wav) Not sure if the "damaged" wavs for those planes are gone, haven't been able to damage any of them. __________________ GWX 3, JSGME 2.3, Sh3 Commander 3.2 SH3 Gen 8.1, Water Stream for U-boats, LRT LITE 2.0, Lifeboats for SH3

10-31-07, 08:22 AM	#2
Kar Seaman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Czech republic Posts: 38 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Nice mod but I have some problems with flares. One sinking ship fired around 50 flares after torpedo hit. Its was like firework And I have sugestion for your mod. Can you make water spalshing from flooding holes on sub like in SH4 ?

10-31-07, 10:11 AM	#3
Cap'n Spanky Loader Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 81 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It just keeps getting better RB.... Oh... yes on the flailing arms and legs!!!

10-31-07, 11:36 AM	#15
Koondawg Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pasadena, Ca Posts: 852 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Id like to say " A great job...2 thumbs up"...love the sounds, flares all of it... although I have found depending upon where you hit the boat say with the deck gun the flare may go into the water...depending upon the explosion on board...hope this helps